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Two Bodies Found In Milwaukee Pond; Body Believed To Be Jamie Rose Bolin Found In Neighbor's Apartment; Gay And Lesbian Parents To Attend White House Easter Egg Roll; Sports Technology Devices; Bad Driving Caught On Tape; David Latko Interview; Mumps Outbreak In Midwest; Danger In Falluja; Mihiri Tillakaratne And May Lan Dong Interview

Aired April 15, 2006 - 07:00   ET


TONY HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: And good morning, everyone.
We expect autopsy results today on two bodies found in a Milwaukee pond. They're believed to be those of two missing boys -- 12-year-old Quadrevion Henning and 11-year-old Purvis Parker disappeared March 19th. The pond is in a park where the boys were headed to play basketball.

BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR: A sad ending to the search for a missing Oklahoma girl. Authorities say the body of 10-year-old Jamie Rose Bolin was found in a neighbor's apartment last night. The neighbor, Kevin Ray Underwood, is under arrest. Now, the D.A. says he will seek the death penalty.

HARRIS: Milwaukee officials are calling for calm after the verdict in an alleged police beating case. Two former officers were acquitted. Jurors were deadlocked on a charge against a third ex-cop. The white officers were accused in the brutal beating of a biracial man. City officials say they'll ask whether federal prosecutors can file charges.

NGUYEN: Take a look at this. Hail, heavy rain, possible tornadoes, severe storms tear through parts of Indiana. There are reports of tornadoes near Lafayette and Crawfordsville. Now, so far, there are no reports of any injuries.

We're going to have more storms today, possibly.

We'll give you an update on that forecast straight ahead.

HARRIS: Fierce fighting in Afghanistan south of Kandahar. The governor of Kandahar Province says Afghan forces, backed by coalition troops, killed 41 Taliban insurgents. He says six Afghan police were also killed. Security forces targeted a suspected Taliban hideout. Coalition helicopters were used in the operation.

From the CNN Center, this is CNN SATURDAY MORNING.

7:00 a.m. here in Atlanta.

And good morning, Betty.

NGUYEN: Good morning, Tony.

How are you doing today?

HARRIS: Outstanding.

6:00 a.m. in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Good morning, everyone.

I'm Tony Harris.

NGUYEN: And I'm Betty Nguyen.

We want to thank you for being with us today.

Ahead right here on CNN SATURDAY MORNING, you owe, you owe...

HARRIS: Oh, boy.

NGUYEN: ... so off to work you go. That's why we're here. Maybe not today, if you're lucky, not like us, having to work on the weekends.

HARRIS: Hello.

NGUYEN: But time is running out to get those tax returns in.

We'll tell you all about that.

The traditional White House Easter Egg Roll is Monday, but with a twist.

Will it scramble the annual event?

Hear what our guest at 9:00 Eastern has to say about that.

And Duke University, a school divided.

Will the wounds over rape allegations ever heal?

We'll talk it over with Durham community leaders in our final hour this morning.

HARRIS: We begin in Milwaukee, where autopsies this morning should reveal if the two bodies found in a pond were those of 12-year- old Quadrevion Henning and 11-year-old Purvis Parker. The boys disappeared nearly a month ago. Although the pond had been searched several times before, last night a man and his son spotted something in the water and called 911.


NAN HEGERTY, MILWAUKEE POLICE CHIEF: Two people were walking through the park and saw something floating in the water and then discovered that it was a body and called 911.

And it looks like the body has been in the lagoon for quite some time.


HARRIS: We will have more on these developments in just a few minutes with a live report from the scene.

NGUYEN: Well, a similar tragedy is unfolding in Purcell, Oklahoma. A body believed to be 10-year-old Jamie Rose Bolin was found in a neighbor's apartment. Now, two days ago, police had speculated she might have been abducted by an Internet predator. Yesterday's gruesome discovery casts doubt on that theory.

CNN's Ed Lavandera is in Purcell with the latest.


ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Two days of searching for 10- year-old Jamie Rose Bolin came to a devastating end Friday afternoon here in the town of Purcell, Oklahoma, where authorities discovered her body in an apartment complex not too far away from where she was last seen. In fact, that is the disturbing twist to this story.

Her body was discovered in the apartment of 26-year-old Kevin Ray Underwood, who lived just downstairs, 15 feet away from where Jamie Rose Bolin and her family lived in this apartment complex.

The district attorney here in Purcell says that Underwood will be charged with first degree murder on Monday and will face the death penalty. And he says this is the most gruesome crime he has ever seen.

TIM KUYKENDALL, DISTRICT 21 D.A.: This is one of the most, if not the most, heinous, atrocious and cruel case that I've been involved with in my 24 years as a district attorney.

LAVANDERA: The news of Jamie Rose Bolin's death came as a devastating blow to her family. In fact, the family was brought here, to the police station, just moments after they had discovered the body in the apartment complex. Her father collapsed here. He was taken away by ambulance and family members say he has been sedated at a local hospital.

MARK CHILES, UNCLE: This happened right there in the apartment below him. And you need to know who your neighbors are. And don't let your kids get away from you, because, I mean, this can happen in a flash.

LAVANDERA: Authorities here in Oklahoma will not say how Jamie Rose Bolin was killed, nor will they go into any details as to how Kevin Ray Underwood came into contact with her. But they do say they will spend the weekend getting the necessary search warrants so they can search his apartment and car and be prepared to file those murder charges on Monday.

Ed Lavandera, CNN, Purcell, Oklahoma.


NGUYEN: Well, Jamie Rose Bolin's tragic story and the case of the missing Milwaukee boys leads us to our e-mail question for this morning. What safety precautions do you take to protect your child? Do you talk about safety with your kids, have summer outside rules, neighborhood watches? What are you doing? What is your method?

Send us an e-mail,

We're going to read these responses on the air and they could be very beneficial to a lot of people out there.

HARRIS: Well, the Midwest could see some more severe weather today. Parts of Indiana have already been pounded. Marble and golf ball sized hail fell in Indianapolis last night. Some homes and other buildings were damaged southeast of the city. A mobile home was destroyed in the community in Rush County in central Indiana. There were tornado sightings in two towns. No reports of any injuries.

More weather today of this nature?

NGUYEN: We talked about it last week.

HARRIS: Don't need it. Don't need it.

NGUYEN: It seems like...

HARRIS: The last couple of weeks.

NGUYEN: Yes, I mean, I know we keep saying it, it's that time of year...


NGUYEN: But, come on, Reynolds Wolf...

HARRIS: It gets old.


NGUYEN: Other "Stories Across America" this morning, traps are set in a forest near Cleveland, Tennessee in hopes of capturing a rogue black bear. Now, the animal attacked a mother and her two small children Thursday, killing the 6-year-old girl. The area is now closed to the public as game officials hunt for that bear.

In the Midwest, a surprise break of mumps has public health officials mystified. They are scratching their heads. They want to keep why the virus, practically eradicated in the U.S. has infected more than 600 people in eight states. The health experts are also looking into how it spread, since mumps is not considered easily contagious.

And in New York's Greenwich Village, luck is with a black cat named Molly. Check her out. She was trapped in a tiny crawl space for two weeks. But the feisty feline was pulled out last night, with all of her nine lives intact.

HARRIS: Oh, nice.

NGUYEN: Oh, yes, I know. Rescuers had -- get this, Tony -- they had to drill a hole through a brick wall just to reach her.

That's a lucky cat.

HARRIS: Yes. Yes. Yes.

Still ahead, dramatic car crashes caught on tape by dashboard mounted camera. Now those same cameras are being used to save lives. We'll explain how.

NGUYEN: Plus, gay parents lining up at the White House to take their kids to the annual Easter Egg Roll.

Are they sending a political message or just celebrating Easter with their kids?

HARRIS: And time is almost up, tax filers. But if you can't afford to pay Uncle Sam right now, should you borrow from your 401K? I don't think so. We've got some...

NGUYEN: I don't know.

HARRIS: ... some other options that you might want to consider.

But first, a break.


HARRIS: Fighting poverty in Africa and improving the education of young women -- this teen started changing the world after an eye- opening experience. For her efforts, she received the 2005 Young Adult National Caring Award. Her story next hour.


HARRIS: And back to our top story.

As we mentioned a few minutes ago, the month long search for two missing boys in Milwaukee appears to be over. Two bodies were recovered last night from a pond in the park where the boys were going to play basketball on March 19th.

Ty Milburn of affiliate WTMJ joins us live from the site where the bodies were discovered -- and, Ty, good morning to you.


HARRIS: We're going to get more information later today, correct?

MILBURN: We are. Police will be holding a press conference about 3:00 this afternoon. Right now they are conducting an autopsy of the bodies.

But just a few hours ago, I was with the Henning family and they confirmed to me they went downtown, they saw the pictures, they confirmed to me that the bodies found last night were those of Dennis Henning and Purvis Parker.

I have to tell you, it was very devastating to be inside of the house. The family had been optimistic all along, week after week, believing that something would turn up positive. But last night, after the one body was found just about 7:00, and then a few hours later, after the second body was found, they realized that this was probably their son.

It was quite devastating to be there -- Tony.

HARRIS: The family confirmed this to you.

What do they suspect, foul play or an accident?

MILBURN: They suspect an accident. Now, this is the lagoon, right behind me, where the boys were found. Now, about a month ago, it is possible that part of the lagoon was frozen over. The boys only live a couple of blocks away from this park. It's possible that they were playing and at this point -- again, this is all a possibility at this point -- they were playing in the water and they both drowned.

Police are doing the autopsy a little bit later and they will determine whether or not foul play was a factor in this at all -- Tony.

HARRIS: Ty, to change gears just a moment here, Milwaukee officials are calling for calm after the verdict in an alleged police brutality case.

Give us the mood of your city.

MILBURN: Well, honestly, people are -- a lot of people are pretty outraged here. I actually watched the verdict inside the Henning home last night with two police officers and they were, in fact, quite disgusted by the verdict.

Outside the Henning home, people were really gathered in support of the family. But there were a number of people there who were quite angry, visibly upset about this.

I mean Milwaukee police have a long history of not quite being fair to some people in the minority community and I think that this really just opened up a lot of wounds here -- Tony.

HARRIS: And just for a little bit of background, the white officers were accused in the beating of a biracial man.

City officials are looking for, perhaps, federal prosecutors to step in?

MILBURN: I think so. I think a lot of people, including the police chief and the mayor, came out last night and said they were quite disgusted with this verdict. So I believe an appeal of some sort will definitely come down the line.


Ty Milburn for us in Milwaukee.

Ty, we appreciate it.

Thanks for your time this morning.

MILBURN: Thank you, Tony.


NGUYEN: Well, it's not a protest. Gay and lesbian parents says it's an opportunity at equality for all families and they plan to join hundreds of other parents at Monday's annual White House Easter Egg Roll.

CNN's Brian Todd has the story in a report that you may have seen first on THE SITUATION ROOM.


BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Dressing up...


TODD: ... rolling eggs, posing with Peter Rabbit...


TODD: ... time-honored traditions at the White House Easter Egg Roll, which this year come with a twist...

(on camera): ... a twist that starts at the ticket line, where more than 100 gay and lesbian couples are converging this year to grab first come, first served passes for this event.

JENNIFER CHRISLER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, FAMILY PRIDE COALITION: I think we're making a statement, certainly, that we are here, that we exist, that we're raising children.

TODD: Jennifer Chrisler, a mother of twins, is organizing the effort and says it's only about giving their children about access to events and creating memories.

One Christian group thinks otherwise.

MARK TOOLEY, UNITED METHODIST DIRECTOR, INSTITUTE ON RELIGION AND DEMOCRACY: I think the groups who are organizing this statement basically are exploiting a children's event to share their political perspective.

TODD: Chrisler says this isn't political. But when we asked what her group thinks about the Bush administration's record on gays and lesbians...

CHRISLER: I believe this administration is wrong about how they think about the policies that affect gay and lesbian people and gay and lesbian families in this country.

TODD (on camera): OK. So, putting that together with what you're doing and the fact that you didn't do it for a Democratic administration, this is not a political statement that you're making?

CHRISLER: No. This is about us being visible for the American people, so that they can see that gay and lesbian parents exist in this country.

TODD (voice-over): White House officials will only say this is a public event, everyone is welcome to attend and they have no plans to make the Egg Roll invitation only in the future.

Brian Todd, CNN, Washington.


NGUYEN: Well, executive director of the Family Pride Coalition, Jennifer Chrisler -- you just saw her in Brian Todd's piece -- camped out all night to make sure she gets a ticket to the event. You're looking at live pictures right now of parents headed to that line to get those tickets.

Now, coming up in our 9:00 hour, she is going to join us live to talk about the event...

HARRIS: Oh, good.

NGUYEN: ... and why she wants to take her family.

That's right here, 9:00 a.m. Eastern on CNN SATURDAY MORNING.

HARRIS: Well, dramatic car crashes all caught on tape and now these cameras might even help save some lives -- Betty.

NGUYEN: Plus, your seeing things, sports fans, more things on TV, on those screens, and more things probably you'll be seeing...

HARRIS: Clogging up the screen.

NGUYEN: Yes. I mean are you going to -- ever going to be able to see the game...

HARRIS: Hello!

NGUYEN: ... with all this stuff around the screen?

Well, if somebody picks up the...


NGUYEN: Ah, there. Hey, I like... HARRIS: It's all about the Benjamins ...

NGUYEN: ... I like that shot, though.

HARRIS: ... is what he's saying there.

NGUYEN: That's what I want to see, more money.

Rick Horrow, our business guru...


NGUYEN: ... joins us. Of course, he's going to keep his money in his pockets. But you can always share it. We'll be talking with him shortly.



HARRIS (voice-over): As the saying goes, you ain't seen nothing yet, sports fans. From the first electronic scoreboard in 1934 and instant replays in 1963, now football fans can't get along without the yellow first in ten line. Or in tennis, animated instant replay online calls. There's catcher cam for baseball fans. For racing fans, instant readouts on the speed and lap position of NASCAR drivers. It's all part of a booming technology to attract sports fans.

But all these high tech devices don't come cheap, so who pays?


HARRIS: Well, the answer is the advertiser, passing it on to you, the consumer.

Sports business analyst Rick Horrow is author of "When the Game Is On the Line."

In today's "Beyond The Game," Rick calls these sports tech devices fan-friendly enhancements.

He joins us now from West Palm Beach, Florida -- how are you feeling, my friend?

You OK?

HORROW: Hey, I'm feeling a little bit.

I'm OK today.

Thank you very much for asking.

HARRIS: You got bumped around...

HORROW: You've got to...

HARRIS: ... a little bit last week, didn't you?

HORROW: I think you need to get me on the golf course before I completely heal. That'll be good for u.

HARRIS: There you go.

OK, here's the question.


HARRIS: The cost of this technology, will it still continue to drive what the fans actually see?

HORROW: Yes, remember 10 years ago, Fox had a glowing hockey puck and everybody said it was atrocious.

HARRIS: Right.

HORROW: And it got eliminated, not because people didn't like it, but it cost $50,000 a game and nobody could pick up the tab.


HORROW: Then we had that first in ten line, and that's only six or seven years old. And the purists said oh, it's Armageddon. What's this yellow line doing in the middle of the field?

I can't watch a game -- I don't know about you -- without that line. And Fox took it off and the outcry was so huge, they said we're going to pay the $10,000 to bring it back. Now it costs only $4,000 a game, so the costs are better.

Hawkeye System in tennis, instant replay, they use it in or out. Two weeks ago it debuted at a tournament in Miami and now NASCAR is spending a billion dollars with their TV partners with something called Fan View for throttle speeds and passing quotients and all of the stuff that NASCAR fans really want to see.

Catcher cams in baseball and other devices.


HORROW: The bottom line is it's fan friendly, it's an acquired taste and it costs big, big bucks.

HARRIS: Acquired taste. I think you're right about that.


HARRIS: Are we going to see more of this kind of virtual advertising superimposed, what, on stadium walls, gym floors? Is that where this is going?

HORROW: Hey, it all depends on this, pal. HARRIS: Yes?

HORROW: I don't know if you've ever seen it. This is a $20, OK? And it's all about those Benjamins.

HARRIS: Right.

HORROW: And more of those. Because before September 11, venture funding could pay for all of this, about $800 million a year for these things. After that, obviously, changed the world. Only $200 million was available.

So corporations have to make up the slack, and it's only if they get some benefit out of it.

We, as golfers, see something called Virtual Caddy, at tournaments.


HORROW: The wind speed, the distance, club selection, because it's called the FedEx Virtual Caddy. That's why they used that.

And, by the way, it has to bring more revenue in. For example, the Washington Redskins have a device called The Time Machine and others, where actually you can freeze commercials and therefore have a second commercial during the same amount of time.

It has to be a revenue enhancement. In our high tech world today, as we know, cell phones, high-def, five billion messages on the Internet today by e-mail.


HORROW: All of that means that the next few years, as long as the dollars are available, $10.7 billion available in sports advertising from corporate America, that's where the money is going to go.

HARRIS: Hey, I've got a quick question for you. We understand here that Barry Bonds is your fair ball and your foul ball.

A quick question.

Has Barry Bonds ever tested positive for steroids?

HORROW: Uh, not technically...


HORROW: ... although they're going to investigate as to how many -- yes, exactly.

HARRIS: OK. That's...

HORROW: But fair ball is... HARRIS: That's the answer to the question.

HORROW: ... the book is coming out.

HARRIS: The book is coming, exactly.

HORROW: And that's a good question.

HARRIS: Exactly.

HORROW: Yes, that's a good question. You apparently...

HARRIS: He's going to tell his side of the story.

HORROW: You apparently are going to win a Pulitzer with that bright, insightful question that just cuts to the heart.

HARRIS: Well ...


HORROW: Hey, we're going to see what happens, fair and foul.

The book is coming out, but you know in L.A. he's been booed mercilessly. And, by the way, we all think the truth is coming out and there is a grand jury investigation going on. That's why it's a foul ball. And I quite haven't come up with the fair ball explanation yet, except, you know, the whole issue is that it's going to clean up the steroid issue in sports and baseball, because everybody's talking about it.

HARRIS: There he is, Rick Horrow.

Rick, good to see you.

Feel better, my friend.

See you next week.

HORROW: I will, man. I'll -- I'll talk to you.

Yes, absolutely. NBA playoffs start, so we'll do that.

HARRIS: Oh, that's right.

That's right.

OK, Rick, thanks, man.

HORROW: All right, man.

HARRIS: All right.

NGUYEN: Asleep at the wheel -- a cabby's catnap is caught on tape. You have to see this. Unbelievable dash cam tales. And are you feeling crunched at tax time? Coming up, some tips if you owe more than you can afford. And, yes, as a last resort, you can even call mom and dad for a loan. They may not pick up, but you can call.

We'll have those details.



NGUYEN: Now in the news, bloody battles in Afghanistan southwest of Kandahar. More than 40 Taliban fighters are reported killed, along with six Afghan police. Afghan forces and a coalition air strike targeted suspected Taliban hideouts. Insurgents announced last month they had launched a spring offensive.

Well, a search ends in Milwaukee. Autopsies are scheduled today on two bodies recovered from a park lagoon. It's the neighborhood where 11-year-old Purvis Parker and 12-year-old Quadrevion Henning were last seen on March 19th. Authorities will talk to reporters this afternoon after those autopsies are done.

Well, another search, another sad ending. Authorities in Oklahoma say the body of 10-year-old Jamie Rose Bolin was found in a neighbor's apartment last night. The neighbor, Kevin Ray Underwood, is under arrest. The D.A. says he will seek the death penalty.

Look out for more spring storms in the Midwest today. Hail, heavy rain and possible tornadoes tore through parts of Indiana. There were two reports of tornadoes. Look at that hail. Large hail pelted in Indianapolis in many areas there. Strong winds downed trees and power lines in several places.

Easter eggs will roll on the White House lawn as usual, but with a twist this year. Hundreds of gay and lesbian parents stood in line all night to get tickets. The White House says all families are welcome to Monday morning's event.

HARRIS: Well, here's a piece of video that will certainly grab your attention -- a school bus driver suspected of drunk driving.

Take a look.



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know I'm drunk.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm drunk. I can't...

UNIDENTIFIED POLICE OFFICER: We'll move on to another one.

Let's see if we can find a...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm not going to pretend. I'm drunk.


HARRIS: Well, Tennessee police agreed and the bus driver was charged. A dashboard camera caught it all on tape. But those cameras aren't used just by police.

Consumer correspondent Greg Hunter has some hair raising examples of bad driving caught on tape. His story was filed for CNN's "PAULA ZAHN NOW."


GREG HUNTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It was another busy morning on New York's Long Island Expressway, thousands of commuters making their way to work.

BRYAN PACELLI, CAR CRASH VICTIM: I should have been dead. There's no doubt. I still don't understand how I'm not. I don't understand it.

HUNTER: The last thing Bryan Pacelli, a father of two, remembers is traffic slowing down.


HUNTER: Bryan is driving the black Audi. Watch the semi-trailer on the right all of a sudden, cutting through two lanes of traffic. Bryan's car is trapped.

PACELLI: They put a blanket over me and I saw them starting to cut up -- cut up the car. I remember that. I remember...

HUNTER (on camera): Did you know it was bad?


HUNTER: When you saw them starting to cut you out of the car?

PACELLI: Yes, I knew something was bad. I knew it was bad.

HUNTER (voice-over): But it could have been worse. Safety experts say that all too often the drivers of private cars in accidents with trucks or larger vehicles don't live to tell their story.

Bryan Pacelli was lucky to survive, although he doesn't remember much of the accident. But he knows exactly what happened thanks to a video camera installed on the windshield of this bus traveling in the left lane. The bus ended up pushing Bryan's car under the semi- trailer.

(on camera): Every year, the most accidents in New York State happen in Long Island. In one year, there were 45,000 crashes. Many of those happened right here behind me on the Long Island Expressway. More and more of those wrecks are being caught on video and it teaches us two things: what happened and, more importantly, how they might be prevented.

(voice-over): For example, driving in the rain.


HUNTER: Distracted driving.


HUNTER: Or not keeping a safe distance from the vehicle in front.


HUNTER: Mistakes which could be avoided.

Bill Schoolman owns a New York transportation company. A few years ago, he installed cameras in all his vehicles.

BILL SCHOOLMAN, PRESIDENT, CLASSIC TRANSPORTATION: It's a great business decision because we save lots of money on our insurance and all direct costs, also, of operating a bus. You save money on front ends, tires, fuel. There's lots of direct benefits that operationally you get when people drive more safely.

HUNTER: Schoolman says he saves up to $250,000 a year on insurance. He's so enthusiastic about the cameras, he's now working as a part-time consultant for the company that makes them. The cameras help him keep an eye on his drivers.

SCHOOLMAN: This camera, when mounted on the windshield, is the cop in their rearview mirror. They drive more safely. And this camera is on all the time and watching.

HUNTER: That metaphorical cop in the rearview mirror didn't keep this taxi driver from dozing off at the wheel while he was working. Watch what happens next.

As soon as he falls asleep, he loses control. It's hard to believe he walked away unhurt. But when his boss saw the video, he lost his job.

We asked Joan Claybrook, a long time road safety advocate and former head of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, to look at some video, like this one from a camera in this New Jersey limousine. The driver says the car on the left was trying to cut him off and almost crashed into him.

He slammed into the pole on the side of the road. The car caught fire.

JOAN CLAYBROOK, PRESIDENT, PUBLIC CITIZEN: Incredible, just coming out of nowhere and passing on the right. HUNTER (on camera): Totally out of control.

CLAYBROOK: Right, going too fast. And just as...

HUNTER: And then it blows up.

CLAYBROOK: And it blows up.

HUNTER (voice-over): How did this end? The limo driver jammed his brakes on to avoid crashing into the car. The driver of the car that blew up walked away with no real injuries.

Next, we asked Claybrook to review Bryan Pacelli's accident.

CLAYBROOK: I don't think in all the years that I've driven, I've ever seen a truck behave that way. This video tells the real story, that's why it's so valuable.

HUNTER: Safety experts like Claybrook believe video cameras can help keep all of us safer.

CLAYBROOK: I think can you use it for training of drivers because it will reveal what the mistakes are, what the problems are. Two, you can use it for the police to figure out exactly what happened at a crash.

HUNTER: Bryan says the video has changed his view of other drivers.

(on camera): What does this video want to make you do?

PACELLI: It makes me angry. It makes me want to, you know, it's made -- it's turned me into a safety advocate. There's plenty of people like me every day next to those, you know, trucks or buses. That was a -- that was a loaded gun rolling down the street and nobody knew.

HUNTER (voice-over): Greg Hunter, CNN, Old Westbury, New York.


HARRIS: I can't believe he survived that.

NGUYEN: Oh, my -- a lot of -- the cab driver? I didn't even think he had his seatbelt on.

HARRIS: I mean that -- yes. But that cat was squished. Tractor trailer, then the median wall.

NGUYEN: Right in there. And then the...

HARRIS: And then the bus.

NGUYEN: And then the car that hit the, you know, the electricity pole...

HARRIS: You can't believe.

NGUYEN: It makes you a little nervous, doesn't it, to get out on the road.

HARRIS: Be sure to join Paula Zahn weeknights at 8:00 Eastern, 5:00 Pacific, right here on CNN.

NGUYEN: Those visuals.


NGUYEN: They're just staying with us.

Well, you've only got two days left, folks. That dreaded tax deadline is upon us.

So what do you do if you owe but you don't have the dough?

we've got some last minute tips ahead.

You've got to stay tuned for this -- good morning, Veronica.


Yes, two more days. Two more days. If you are getting some money back from Uncle Sam this year, I've got some says for you to spend that nice chunk of change, and hopefully it is a nice chunk of change.

I have the details coming up in the Dot-Com Desk.


REYNOLDS WOLF, CNN METEOROLOGIST: I'm meteorologist Reynolds Wolf with a look at your Allergy Report this morning.

And you allergy sufferers -- and you know who you are -- you've had a rough time with the sneezing, the hacking, rubbing your eyes, especially on the Gulf Coast, into the Central Plains, even the Sangre de Cristo and parts of the Rockies. It has been a rough time for you.

However, if you happen to live in the Northern Plains, conditions are much better. Even into the Great Lakes, conditions aren't bad.

I'm Reynolds Wolf and that is your Allergy Report.


NGUYEN: April 15th, oh. Late? Well, you're about to be late for a very important date. If you're holding off putting your taxes in the mail because you owe Uncle Sam, Monday is the deadline for most of the U.S.

But what if you owe and you just don't have the dough? What are your options? What do you do?

Well, you have a few options.

David Latko, author of "Everybody Wants Your Money" -- ain't that right -- joins us with a few late tax tips.

Good morning to you.


How are you, Betty?

NGUYEN: I'm doing well.

All right, let's get down to the nitty-gritty.

If you owe, you don't have the money to pay, I guess an extension is really all you can do at this point, right?

LATKO: That's pretty much it. And you've got to remember, just like I said in the book, "Everybody Wants Your Money," Uncle Sam wants your money and all his nieces and nephews out there on the state and local level want theirs, also.

NGUYEN: Yes, they do.

LATKO: So you've got to get down to it.

the most important thing, though, Betty, you've got to do is you've got to file that return. If you don't file the return, the penalties are huge.

NGUYEN: Oh, yes.

LATKO: It's 5 percent per month you start in. And so now you find yourself in a spot, where do I get the money? What do I do? The first thing...

NGUYEN: Well, before we get to there, let me ask you about this.

LATKO: Sure.

NGUYEN: In order to file that extension, you have to pay something. You can just -- you can't just put it in the mail with no check, right?

LATKO: Well, you can if you don't have anything. But the main thing here a lot of people don't understand, Betty, is what you really want to do is, let's say you owe $5,000 in taxes and you only have $1,000.

NGUYEN: Right.

LATKO: You want to take that $1,000 and you want to send it to whoever is going to charge you the most in penalties and interest. So you might want to pay your state off first instead of the federal government. NGUYEN: Oh.

LATKO: Check with your individual states to see who has the highest rates.

NGUYEN: I got you.

OK, now let's get down to where do we come up with this money?

I'm looking at your tips right here and I'm really surprised by you're saying borrow from your 401K? A lot of people say never, ever, ever borrow from retirement.

LATKO: If you know you're going to be able to pay the money back, a 401K is a quick way to get money. You can take up to five years to pay it back. You can borrow up to $50,000. And, Betty, if you have the money coming back some time soon, so it's like borrowing from yourself for a month or two months if you can.

NGUYEN: But wait, isn't there a penalty? And what about the interest?

LATKO: No, there's no penalty on it. And your administrator of your program will dictate how much interest you're going to pay. It'll probably be a lot cheaper than paying the penalties to the government and the intra state charge, which is currently about 7 1/2 percent.


LATKO: The thing you've got to be watching out for, though, Betty on that, is if you lose your job or you change jobs, that loan comes due immediately.


LATKO: And if you don't pay it, you're getting yourself in a lot of trouble.

NGUYEN: That's a -- that's a big thing to consider.

LATKO: Absolutely.

NGUYEN: Now, this will hold true for the IRA? You say borrow from the IRA, as well?

LATKO: A lot of people don't understand that everybody in the country has the right every single year to borrow money out of their IRA and not pay it back for up to 60 days. But you've got to get it back in there, because that 61st day it becomes taxable and if you're under 59 1/2, there's a 10 percent penalty.

NGUYEN: Ooh. OK. But if you only have 60 days, wouldn't it be just a lot easier to take out a loan?

LATKO: It would be, but a lot of people can't get a loan. That's the problem. And you can't get it quick. Or another one we talk about is like a home equity loan.

NGUYEN: Right.

LATKO: If you have a home equity loan that's already out there in existence, absolutely, borrow against it to pay your taxes, because it's still going to be cheaper.

But remember, if you're a habitual person that we have this problem with every April 15th, you may have some problems, because you're not going to be able to pay this back maybe next year or the year after and sooner or later you might lose your house.

NGUYEN: Interest can be high, but some people do borrow from their credit cards. But what I want to get to is this government program. You can actually borrow from the government. They can put you on a payment plan to pay back those taxes, correct?

LATKO: Well, that's what happens. When you ask for an extension, if you haven't got all the money, generally speaking, the government will let you pay them off over time, never really more than a year. They're not going to give you forever to pay this thing off. And they'll only do this if the amount is under, let's say, $10,000 ...


LATKO: ... and you have a clear tax record before. You can't have owed money for 2004, 2003, etc. So you've got to be pretty clean to get that one.

NGUYEN: I hear you.

The last case scenario, borrow from parents. Ah, I don't know about that one.

LATKO: This one is the -- you know, borrowing, like we say, from the First National Bank of mom and dad.

NGUYEN: Of mom and dad.

LATKO: And what you're doing here...

NGUYEN: That bank is closed. That bank has been closed for so long, let me tell you.

But here's what my question is to you.

Is it true the more money you make, the better your chances are of getting audited?

LATKO: Oh, absolutely. If you make under $100,000 in this country, that's a net return. You're talking about your chances are about one in 100 of being audited. If you go over that $100,000 mark, it's about two in 100 you're going to have, about two percent.

NGUYEN: I hear you. OK, well, we've got a lot of choices and a lot of decisions to be made very clear.

David Latko, author of "Everybody Wants Your Money."

I know that is true.

Thanks for joining us today.

LATKO: Thank you for having me on the show.

NGUYEN: A quick note to our viewers.

The tax deadline is on Monday for most folks. But if you're in six states, you don't have to pay them until Tuesday. Let me tell you what those states are. They include Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Vermont and the District of Columbia. And the reason is because they are observing Patriots Day.

So in those states that you see there on the map, your tax deadline is not until Tuesday. But for everybody else, Monday is the date -- Tony.

HARRIS: Good news. Good information. Need to know.

Hey, how about this? President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney beat the tax filing deadline this year. Since they are public figures, we can take a sneaky peek.

According to information released Friday by the White House, the president and first lady paid more than $187,000 on income of nearly three quarters of a million dollars.

Dick Cheney's tax story isn't so easy to tell. Follow me on this one. The vice president and his wife's income for 2005 approaches $9 million. But the records show the Cheneys set aside nearly $7 million for charity. Huh.

That move reduces their 2005 income to just under $2 million. Now, according to records, they prepaid close to $2.5 million in federal taxes and are due a tax return of close to $2 million.

How about that?

DE LA CRUZ: Even now? Did I see that right?



DE LA CRUZ: Did I see that right, $1.93 million?

HARRIS: 1.9 -- yes. Let's look at it again.

DE LA CRUZ: Yes, $1.93 million.

HARRIS: So they'll get a refund of $1.9 -- damn.

DE LA CRUZ: $2 million.

NGUYEN: Tony and Veronica, let's try to understand this.


NGUYEN: So they paid $2.5 million in taxes.

HARRIS: Right.

NGUYEN: And they get $2 million back and a tax refund.

HARRIS: Then they get their...

NGUYEN: What! That's pretty good math right there.

HARRIS: Where's your tax man? Is he gone? Is it too late to figure this out?

NGUYEN: Yes. I need that tax guy...

DE LA CRUZ: Get him back for a second.

HARRIS: All right, he's gone.

All right, if you've already filed your taxes and you've got a nice looking refund heading your way, $1.9 million, maybe?

DE LA CRUZ: Yes, $2 million.

NGUYEN: That might be pretty nice.

HARRIS: How about spending it on a fabulous vacation?

Veronica de la Cruz at the Dot-Com Desk joins us now with some ideas.

DE LA CRUZ: A fabulous vacation. I say that we all take a vacation with our refund.

HARRIS: All of us. The entire nation, $1.9 million.

DE LA CRUZ: Everybody here in the newsroom.

NGUYEN: You know what, I'm saving my refund...

DE LA CRUZ: Dick Cheney takes a vacation.

NGUYEN: You all can go on vacation but I'm putting mine in the bank.

HARRIS: Mr. Cheney can kick into the war effort a little bit. There you go.

DE LA CRUZ: All right, guys, listen, I know it's still spring, but we're all thinking, what, summer? Summer vacation, maybe?

HARRIS: Sure, sure.

DE LA CRUZ: So take your tax refund and spend it on a vacation. If you're a person who loves the crowds, the culture and the bright lights of the big city, here's an idea. You can point your browser to for a guide to big city travel.


DE LA CRUZ (voice-over): From San Francisco to Sydney, New York to London, you'll get a few cultural tips when visiting cities abroad. It may be good to know that in Paris, the customer is not king and you can expect waiters to be less friendly and distant. This gallery highlights some of Paris' must see attractions, like the Eiffel Tower and The Louvre.

For an exotic destination, Sydney, Australia is a big city packed with adventure. You can climb up the arch of the Sydney Harbor Bridge for a stunning view of the city.

In Hong Kong, a symphony of light showcases the city's skyline every night, with music and narration.


DE LA CRUZ: And to check out other big cities, pick your dream destination and you can send us your own vacation pictures, just log on to

Do you guys have any vacation coming up?

NGUYEN: I do. I can't wait.

HARRIS: Well, but no one's going on vacation until we figure out this Cheney tax story.

NGUYEN: I know. We are still talking about that.

HARRIS: We're still debating that. So we missed the great spots you were talking about there. So here's the thing. We have the smartest viewers watching this show.

DE LA CRUZ: We sure do.

HARRIS: So, OK, we laid out the Cheney tax story. So, to you viewers, help us out. Explain it to us.

DE LA CRUZ: You just -- you just donate $7 million. I mean...

HARRIS: That's the deal.

DE LA CRUZ: That's how you get that refund.

HARRIS: Veronica has it figured out.

NGUYEN: A higher income, the higher...

HARRIS: We're still kicking it around.

NGUYEN: ... the more money you should donate. That's, you know, that's part of the plan.

DE LA CRUZ: Right.

NGUYEN: All right...

HARRIS: Veronica, thanks.


We'll all go on vacation once we figure it out.


NGUYEN: Are you thirsty for something out of the ordinary?


NGUYEN: Well, The Water Cooler always out of the ordinary. That is straight ahead.

HARRIS: Yes, you don't want to miss this young matador in action, nine years old.


HARRIS: But look, he's got the moves.

NGUYEN: Look at that.

HARRIS: This is the right stuff and then some. The story coming up.


HARRIS: OK, all right, time for wacky Water Cooler stuff.

You want to see the king of debit cards? Take a look. Here it is. Or, if you prefer...


HARRIS: How about that, huh?


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And with that, we bring you today's "Water Cooler."


HARRIS (voice-over): What has your third grader done lately? Probably not this. This youngster is considered a prodigy in Mexico. At nine years of age, Rafita Mirabal is a veteran of about two dozen fights, though he is still too young to deliver a death blow. Rafita's father says his son can pursue bull fighting as long as he keeps up his grades in school.

No bull about this story, either. An elite eatery in London is offering what is likely to be the world's most expensive roast beef sandwich. It's made with exotic Japanese beef, black truffle mayonnaise, faux grace and other pricey condiments layered between two thick slices of fermented sourdough bread. The hefty creation costs roughly $100.

You could wash it all down with the world's most expensive mint julep at next month's Kentucky Derby. With ice from the Arctic, mint from Morocco, sugar from the South Pacific and the finest Kentucky bourbon, the drink will be served in a gold cup with a silver straw. It promises both a kick in the head and the wallet. Each one will cost $1,000, with the money going to charity.

And speaking of races, if you rush on over to, you'll have a chance to give the Goodyear Blimp a new name. You'll have until April 30th to submit a new moniker. Internet voters will choose their favorite from a list of 10 finalists on May 7th. The winner will be announced in June and will get to use the blimp for an entire day.


HARRIS: Well, it is getting warm outside. Summer is near and the kids are out in full force, whether they are riding bikes, at the pool or at the playground.

Have you set some summer ground rules that will keep them safe?

NGUYEN: Very important.

That's our e-mail question this morning.

And we're going to read some of those responses next.

But first, your real estate "Tip of the Day."


GERRI WILLIS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Having trouble selling your home? Your asking price may be too high. When setting the price, base it on recent sale prices of comparable homes in your neighborhood. Reevaluate the condition of your home.

Painting the exterior and the interior of the home will often add thousands to a home's sale price. And market your home wisely. In addition to newspapers and the Internet, your local multiple listing service is the most effective method for getting your house listed with local realty agents.

I'm Gerri Willis and that's your "Tip of the Day."


NGUYEN: You can watch "OPEN HOUSE" with Gerri Willis every Saturday at 9:30 a.m. Eastern.

Today's topic? Last minute tax advice.

CNN SATURDAY MORNING continues with your e-mails right after this short break.


HARRIS: Our e-mail question of the morning, what safety precautions do you take to protect your child?

A simple one in our household, when the street light goes on, get your in...

NGUYEN: Get inside.

I remember I could go...

HARRIS: You remember that?

NGUYEN: ... riding my bike all day long and wouldn't have to be inside into the evening.

HARRIS: It's a new day.

NGUYEN: But these days, I don't know if they can do that.

HARRIS: It is a new day.

NGUYEN: A lot of kids have cell phones, which can be important.

HARRIS: Right. Right.

The first e-mail from Patty, who writes: "I have two sets of twins, ages nine and 11, and I do not let them out of my sight." Yes, you've got to keep them on a short lease. "I know every one of their friends and their friends' parents. I give them time limits and most of the people in our neighborhood know the kids. We have a system that the kids travel in packs of four or more."

Thank you, Patty.

NGUYEN: And Sheryl says: "Whenever I take my 15-year-old granddaughter with me, I tell her if we're in a situation where we can't see each other and someone tries to entice her into anything, she is to scream and kick."

HARRIS: And this from Michael and Shawna: "We stress the whole stranger danger concept with our son. Also, be honest with your children and have consequences for when your child puts themselves or someone else in dangerous -- in a dangerous situation."

Good responses. Good tips.

Share some of yours. There is the question, there is the address,

NGUYEN: And the next hour of CNN SATURDAY MORNING begins in just a moment.


NGUYEN: Now in the news, a sad ending in the story of a missing Oklahoma girl. Authorities say the body of 10-year-old Jamie Rose Bolin was found in a neighbor's apartment last night. That neighbor, Kevin Ray Underwood, is under arrest. The D.A. says he will seek the death penalty.

We expect autopsy results today on two bodies found in a Milwaukee pond. They're believed to be those of two missing boys. The 11- and 12-year-old boys disappeared almost a month ago. The pond is in a park where the boys were headed to play basketball.

Milwaukee officials are calling for calm this morning after the verdict in an alleged police beating case. The two former officers were acquitted. Jurors were deadlocked on a charge against a third ex-cop. The white officers were accused in the brutal beating of a biracial man. City officials say they'll ask whether Federal prosecutors can file charges.

Hail, heavy rain and possible tornadoes. Listen to that. That is the sound of hail, folks. Severe storms tear through parts of Indiana. Strong winds, look at the hail - knocked down trees and power lines. There were reports of tornadoes near Lafayette and Crawfordville. So far though, no reports of any injuries. More severe weather is possible today in some areas. We'll update the forecast for you shortly.

Well, Easter eggs will roll on the White House lawn as usual, but with a little twist this year. Hundreds of gay and lesbian parents stood in line all night to get tickets. You're looking at live pictures of the line this morning. Folks are really serious about this Easter egg roll. The White House says all families are welcomed to Monday morning's event.

Well good morning from the CNN center. This is CNN SATURDAY MORNING, April 15th. It would be tax day except it's Saturday. Most folks have to pay those taxes on Monday. That's the deadline, 8:00 a.m. here in CNN headquarters in Atlanta, 7:00 a.m. in the Mississippi valley. Good morning. I'm Betty Nguyen.

HARRIS: And I'm Tony Harris. Upstairs the CNN weather center with Reynolds Wolf. And Reynolds, I guess today as we get -- what is this?


NGUYEN: Don't remind me. All right, Reynolds, we're going to be busy, no doubt. Thank you.

Coughing, sneezing, headache and fever, sounds like the common cold, but it could be the developing stages of mumps. Eight Midwestern states are experiencing a serious mumps outbreak. Now the CDC is looking into whether the virus is being spread during air travel. CNN's Mary Snow has the details.


MARY SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Health officials discovered the first U.S. cases on an Iowa college campus in December. Now cases of the mumps in Iowa have skyrocketed to more than 600 and nearby Midwest states report dozens more, puzzling doctors.

DR. WILLIAM SCHAFFNER, VANDERBILT UNIV. MEDICAL CTRE: Where did it lurk? How is it that we didn't see further cases?

SNOW: Mumps caused the glands under the jaw to swell and people usually have a fever and headache. Severe complications like deafness and meningitis are rare. Mumps spread when infected people cough and sneeze. What about when they travel?

DR. JANE SEWARD, CDC EPIDEMIOLOGIST: A disease like mumps spreading on a plane. It's very uncommon, but we wanted to be cautious and just inform passengers.

SNOW: The Centers for Disease Control is now investigating whether this mumps outbreak put air travelers at risk. The government is reaching out to passengers on flights taken by two infected people. Those infected people had many layovers.

According to the CDC, the first infected person traveled from Waterloo, Iowa, in late March to Minneapolis, Minnesota, then to Detroit, Michigan, then to Washington, DC and back. The other went from Tucson, Arizona, to Dallas Texas, to Lafayette, Arkansas, to St. Louis, Missouri to Cedar Rapids, Iowa, on April 2nd.

SCHAFFNER: We could take this mumps epidemic as kind of a fire drill for what might happen if bird flu suddenly became transmissible to humans and was introduced into the United States.

SNOW: It's also testing the public health system response that was put into place after 9/11 to deal more effectively with biological emergencies.

PATRICIA QUINLISK, IOWA PUBLIC HEALTH DEPT: So it is not only being useful for dealing with mumps, but it's actually test our ability to deal with biological emergencies and showing us where we can do better.

SNOW: Mary Snow, CNN, New York.


HARRIS: In other stories across America this morning, traps are set in a forest near Cleveland, Tennessee, in hopes of capturing a rogue black bear. The animal attacked a mother and her two small children Thursday, killing the six-year-old girl. The area is now closed to the public as game officials hunt for the bear.

In New York's Greenwich Village luck is with a black cat named Molly. She was trapped in a tiny crawl space for two weeks. Last night, the feisty feline was pulled out with all of her nine lives intact. Look at those eyes. Rescuer had to drill a hole through a brick wall to reach her.

NGUYEN: She's got nine more lives, could be in trouble.

Harris, But, listen to this. It's a chorus there of boos. Not exactly music to the ears of Giants slugger Barry Bonds. Dodgers fans were quite vocal in their disapproval as Bonds took the field last night in Los Angeles. It was his first game since news broke that he may be in legal hot water over 2003 grand jury testimony about steroids. A closer look at Bonds' troubles is coming up in our 10:00 a.m. Eastern hour.

NGUYEN: There's grim news this morning about the search for three missing children. Police think the bodies found in a Milwaukee lagoon may be two boys who disappeared last month. Twelve-year-old Quadrevion Henning and 11-year old Purvis Parker were last seen on March 19. Now autopsy results are expected a little bit later today.

And in Oklahoma, police say they found the body of a missing 10- year-old girl in a neighbor's apartment. Jamie Rose Bolin has been missing since Wednesday. Police have arrested the neighbor and the district attorney says he plans to file first-degree murder charges.

Jamie Rose Bolin's tragic story and the case of the missing Milwaukee boys leads us to our e-mail question this morning. What safety precautions do you take to protect your child? Do you talk about safety with your kids? Do you have summer outside rules, neighborhood watches? What are you doing? What is your method? E-mail us Share your experience, share your knowledge. We'll read those responses throughout the show.

HARRIS: And coming up this morning right here on CNN, meet a role model for your kids. We have one for you coming up in about 10 minutes. You're going to love her, a young girl who is working to make this world a better place.

In our 9:00 hour, we bring in the legal ladies. We're going to get their take on this week's developments in the Moussaoui 9/11 case and later, in our 10:00 hour, Duke University, what needs to be done to heal a school torn apart by charges of rape and racism? We'll be talking to a man who played football at Duke, teaches there now and is also a minister. His perspective hasn't been heard and it's here on CNN.



CAROL COSTELLO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): He hustles, has good hands and a great arm. Unfortunately for Kegan Bailey who place baseball for Grayson High School, he also has bad allergies.

KEGAN BAILEY, BASEBALL PLAYER: It caused the headaches when I was playing. It would be pretty painful at times because I'm trying to play and at the same time, it's hard to think when you've got a throbbing pain in your head.

COSTELLO: Kegan is not alone. Some 40 to 50 million people suffer with spring time allergies, often needlessly, say some doctors.

DR. KATHLEEN SHEERIN, ATLANTA ALLERGY AND ASTHMA CLINIC: People don't have to be miserable. Their sports performance doesn't have to suffer. There are medicines and there is help out there.

COSTELLO: Dr. Sheerin advises getting on an allergy program before your allergies are out of control and avoid exercising in the morning when pollen counts tend to be the highest. Prescription allergy drugs help keep Kegan's allergies in control. Giving up sports is something he won't even consider.

BAILEY: I don't think my allergies can make me stop. I love baseball too much.

COSTELLO: Carol Costello, CNN.



HARRIS: Falluja, a snapshot in the fight for Iraq and the ongoing battle against insurgents. For troops patrolling the city, a typical day can turn dangerous suddenly and without warning. CNN's Arwa Damon is embedded with U.S. Marines in Iraq and has this report from Falluja.


ARWA DAMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Charlie company hits the stresses of Falluja, a city with a tough reputation.

MAJOR VAUGHN WARD, US MARINE CORPS: And just have the Marines get to know the AO (ph) better. They're new here and try and engage the local populous, try and find people and see what their attitudes are, what's been going on. Have they see insurgent activity in the area? We've been getting shot at quite a bit over here to the west.

DAMON: For this Marine reserve unit, it's a mission like any other day, except it's Friday a Muslim holy day and often picked for insurgent attacks.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The foot patrols have been getting engaged a lot more than the mobile convoys have. It's a easier target to go after.

DAMON: And this unit has seen increased violence in the last week, including a heightened threat from snipers. Since the massive operation to take back Falluja from insurgents in 2004, most residents have returned to their devastated city and with them the insurgents, not in large numbers, but enough to cause trouble. This Friday, residents are out. Children are happy to see the Marines always easier to win over than the wary adults. So far things are going well, but things going well in Iraq can be deceiving.

A shot rang out that seemed to come out of nowhere that wounded one Marine, the streets that for the last hour had appeared calm and friendly within seconds turning hostile. The Medivac team arrives within minutes. The mission has changed. Find the shooter. Everyone wearing khaki pants and black shoes is searched. A Marine saw a man fitting that description running away.

Warning shots are fired to stop a fleeing taxi, the insurgents' favorite getaway car. More men are searched. One is tested for gunshot residue. The results are negative. And it's becoming frustratingly more apparent that the attacker has fled. Good news, word comes that the wounded Marine's injury is non-life-threatening. The men begin to relax, but out here is no place to let down your guard.

SGT. JULIO FELICIANO, U.S. MARINE CORPS: It's hard to stay focused just to let you know when something happens like that it's for real. They're everywhere. They can look at you and you've got to stay alert 24/7 all the time.

DAMON: One Marine says jokingly, are you ready for the death run as they dash across the main road back to their base.

Arwa Damon, CNN, Falluja, Iraq.


NGUYEN: Now we're getting reports of some of the fiercest fighting in months in Afghanistan. The governor of Kandahar province says dozens of Taliban insurgents have been killed. Journalist Tom Coghlan with the "London Daily Telegraph" joins us by phone from Kabul with the latest on this. Tom, we're hearing some 40 Taliban fighters killed. Talk to me about the impact of this operation.

TOM COGHLAN, "LONDON DAILY TELEGRAPH": Well, this operation is the biggest heavy fighting that we've seen in Afghanistan in a few months. A major battle to the southwest of Kandahar in an area actually where the spiritual leader of the Taliban was born, that's Mullah Omar, a man still on the run, still wanted by American authorities.

Now the Taliban effort -- the Afghan authorities say that 41 Taliban have been killed in this fighting. U.S. Apache helicopters involved. The Taliban by contrast is saying that only two of their fighters have been killed in this fighting so far Betty.

NGUYEN: Well, let's talk about the fighting there and the attacks by the Taliban. We're hearing more and more of them especially recently. Are they growing in strength?

COGHLAN: They are growing in strength. The latest U.S. intelligence assessment delivered to Congress last month estimates that the Taliban are now stronger than they've ever been since the U.S.-led invasion in 2001 and in the last two weeks, we've seen the start of a spring offensive, a much promised spring offensive.

The Taliban has been talking about this for several months, saying that they are really going to put the coalition forces and Afghan forces on the back push (ph) in the coming months. That appears to have started. This is probably one part of that. Other parts of that strategy include the use of suicide bombs. We've seen about a dozen of those in past two or three weeks. So really the level of violence in southern Afghanistan has really picked up in the last couple of weeks.

NGUYEN: We will definitely keep a watch. Journalist Tom Coghlan with the "London Daily Telegraph" joining us on the phone from Kabul this morning. Thanks for that insight, Tom.

HARRIS: And ahead here on CNN SATURDAY, seeing the difference teenagers can make. Meet two young ladies who gave of themselves and changed the lives of thousands in need. Plus...

NGUYEN: He shows no remorse whatsoever and the families of 9/11 victims aren't the only ones outraged about his comments. We're talking about Zacarias Moussaoui and his trial. What strategy do his lawyers have to possibly spare him the death penalty? Get ready for a heated debate in our legal briefs at 9:00 a.m. Eastern.


NGUYEN: As we were talking about changing the word, remember when the 2004 tsunami struck south Asia? Well, it hit home for one teenager. Mihiri Tillakaratne's parents were born in Sri Lanka. Some of her family still live there. So she sprang into action, raising more than $25,000 for emergency relief.

She is one of 20 remarkable young men and women featured in "Teen People's" April issue. Mihiri joins us this morning along with another teen featured in the magazine for her remarkable humanitarian work. Mihiri, though let's start with you. First of all Mihiri, good morning and welcome.


NGUYEN: Mihiri, let's talk about that day in 2004. I remember very vividly. We were on the air the day after Christmas and the tsunami struck. Your family's from there. When you saw those pictures, you saw the devastation and the panic, did you know right then that you wanted to do something?

TILLAKARATNE: Yes, I was shocked. The day after the tsunami our temple got together and right away I whipped out a small fold out chair and a small foldout table and I was like, I'm going to collect donations right now.

NGUYEN: What did you do? How did you collect it? Were you doing bake sales or you were just standing there saying look, there's a need. We need you to come and open your wallets and your hearts.

TILLAKARATNE: Well, I went to a bunch of Los Angeles area schools and I talked to my students there about my work in Sri Lanka and they threw bake sales and had art auctions and book drives and we raised a lot of money.

NGUYEN: Yes, you did, $25,000. What's being done with that money?

TILLAKARATNE: Well, it's been going to reconstruction projects and in February we actually handed over 38 homes to tsunami-affected families. So that's what's where the money's been going to.

NGUYEN: That is fantastic. Now, you are also a net aid global action award winner for your help in fighting poverty and you organize trips for American students to go over to Sri Lanka and teach English. Tell us about that.

TILLAKARATNE: Oh, well, when I was 13 I started this English exchange program. So basically I take American students over and we go to rural Sri Lankan villages and we just teach English. We also take urban Sri Lankan students so they can see the disparities between the city life and the village life. So it's been an amazing experience.

NGUYEN: Oh, I imagine it has. Also you've set up a computer literacy program in the village where your father grew up. What do villagers have to say about these programs and what it's doing to help them?

TILLAKARATNE: Well, it's completely changed their lives and it's absolutely amazing for them because several of the people who graduated from our computer program have actually gotten jobs in the cities and have come back to the village and it's just this cycle of amazingness.

NGUYEN: Pass it forward is what I'm seeing here. Wow, that's amazing.


NGUYEN: It doesn't stop because you're taking the money that you've won, that $1,000 from becoming one of "Teen People's" 20 teenagers who would change the world. Tell us what you're doing with that money.

TILLAKARATNE: Well, along with the $1,000 from "Teen People" and the $5,000 from Net Aid, I actually put it toward a water project in Sri Lanka where there's a cluster of villages that have been hit by drought in the past and so we're building a water project which will help them with irrigation and drinking water and it will be amazing.

NGUYEN: We salute you for your work. Thanks so much for talking to us and sharing with us about it. May, let's talk to you for a minute. You've been helping folks in South Africa and this started as a trip with your father. Tell us about that. MAY LAN DONG, FIGHTING POVERTY IN AFRICA: Well, I made a trip during my spring and my sophomore year to Guinea. I traveled to Africa numerous times throughout my childhood to Tanzania, to Kenya, to Egypt and to see such a devastation and such poverty has really hit home for me.

And during that spring and my sophomore year, I was finally entering Africa not as a tourist, but more as someone who was willing to have an open hand and willing to do any kind of community service work. I remember in particular, just seeing children playing in the drains and playing in the sewage and these images of, you know, women washing their clothes in dirty water. Children with smiles on their faces, yet they have barely anything. These images really stuck in my mind and just drove me to, you know, do whatever I could to support the students.

NGUYEN: You've created operation West Africa and you've really focused on..

DONG: Yes, I did.

NGUYEN: ... on girls. Tell us why?

DONG: Yes, I have. Well, I'm a girl myself. I'm an up and coming activist and a feminist and I truly believe that in developing countries women are severely undermined. In third world countries, as we all know women are not given opportunity. You know, in the classrooms you have one third of the girls in the student population going to school. So these kinds of numbers, statistics are just extremely devastating.

NGUYEN: They're staggering. And to help with that, you've also created dorms with these girls so that not only can they learn, but they can have a place to live. That is fantastic. Go ahead.

DONG: One of the places that I'm working at is a vocational training center where I raised $30,000 which went to purchasing all the materials to build a girls' dormitory. This particular school had only a 10 percent rate of women in the classrooms and so I was able to raise that up to 50 percent and the dormitory now houses 30 to 40 girls so it's a huge accomplishment.

NGUYEN: Oh, that is so wonderful and just so a little bit looking forward in your life, May Lan. Your next project is hoping to raise AIDS awareness. Both of you have done so much and continue to do so and we really appreciate not only what you're doing, but spending a little time with us today to talk about it. Best of luck to you both.

TILLAKARATNE: Thank you very much.

DONG: Thank you for having us.

NGUYEN: Sure. Each teenager receives a $1,000 scholarship from L'Oreal Paris and you'll want to join us next Saturday when we talk to more teens who are definitely changing the world. HARRIS: Can I feel any more inadequate?

NGUYEN: They're just teenagers and they're doing this. It's a great thing. You got to start young. They say when you start young and you give that continues through your life time.

HARRIS: I like that. I like that. That's good. Man, that's terrific.

Still ahead, the White House Easter egg roll this year with a twist.

NGUYEN: As gay parents and their kids line up to get tickets for the annual event. We're looking at live pictures right now of people just in general getting tickets. We're going to take you to the White House live in our next hour to talk about this.

HARRIS: And stay tuned for "HOUSE CALL" with Dr. Sanjay Gupta.



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