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Violence in Egypt; Financial Aid for Illegal Immigrants?; Veteran Successfully Sues Health Care Company for Medicaid Fraud; Children Speak out Against Bullying; "Obama Girl" from 2008 may now have Doubts about President; Five-Month-old Left in Car by 18-Year-Old Father

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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Let's roll on, hour two here on CNN. I'm Brooke Baldwin.

Bloodshed as Christians and police battle it out in the streets, an about-face from Netflix, and one American city may downgrade domestic violence charges, which is, of course, sparking all kinds of outrage. We will get to that in just a minute.

Time to play "Reporter Roulette."

I want to begin first with CNN senior international correspondent Ben Wedeman for us in Cairo.

It's 9:00 your time there, Ben. Was today any calmer than the violence over the weekend on the streets there?

BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Certainly today was calmer, but that's not to say it wasn't less tense. I mean, what we saw was, outside, for instance, the Coptic hospital where more than a dozen bodies were held people killed in these demonstrations, there was a lot of anger against the military leaders of Egypt, people accusing them of working with Muslim fanatics against the Christian minority here, a minority that makes up about 9 percent of the population.

What we also saw were Muslims coming to console the families of people who had lost victims in this fighting. So there is an attempt on sort of a personal street level by people to narrow this widening sectarian divide. But there's a feeling that the government is unwilling or incapable of really bringing the streets under control.

I mean, I have to do this live shot right now with the windows closed because just a little while ago a rock was thrown through our window by young men in the street who I'm told are actually working for the Egyptian police. So the situation is not chaotic, but it's becoming very tenuous at the moment.

BALDWIN: Wow.

The most violence I know you all have seen on Cairo streets since the revolution many months ago in which Hosni Mubarak was ousted. Speaking of, this movement there on the streets is very much so connected to that political revolution back this spring.

WEDEMAN: Yes. Amongst the protesters, as I mentioned, are people, they're not Christians. They're Muslims, they're secularists, they're socialists, they're nationalists who all believe that the military government has not lived up to its pledges to democratize the country.

It's taking an awful long time to organize democratic elections. It is still throwing civilians into prison and charging them, trying them in military courts. There are still thousands of people who have been put in prison, bloggers for doing nothing more than criticizing the government.

There is a feeling among many Egyptians that, despite the excitement of the 18-day uprising that led to the downfall of Hosni Mubarak, that really, as much things have changed, many things remain the same -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: Ben Wedeman in Cairo. Ben, thank you.

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BALDWIN: And, finally here on "Reporter Roulette," Richelle Carey stopping by from our sister network HLN.

We're talking Topeka, Kansas. Tomorrow it's the city council. They're voting whether they want to stop prosecuting domestic violence as far as a misdemeanor?

RICHELLE CAREY, HLN CORRESPONDENT: I know. It sounds crazy.

BALDWIN: Why?

CAREY: Let me explain how we got here. The why, it's about money, Brooke. Isn't it always about money?

BALDWIN: Yes.

CAREY: Topeka is in Shawnee County. Shawnee County district attorney says, I no longer have the money to help the city of Topeka prosecute these cases because their budget has been cut by 10 percent.

So they say, we're done prosecuting as of September 8. It's on you, the city of Topeka. The city of Topeka says, we don't have the money either so they're going to vote tomorrow in the city council on whether to actually take it off the books, that it's no longer illegal technically illegal in the city of Topeka to commit domestic violence, therefore, they say, putting it back on the county to have to act because nobody wants domestic violence to not be prosecuted.

Let me just give you a few numbers to explain. Clearly it's life or death talking when we're about domestic violence. The Kansas Bureau of Investigations says domestic violence related murder happen every 10 days in the state of Kansas.

And they're talking about wanting to save money. It's not just lives. If you are wanting to save money, this is really kind of shortsighted because on the whole, health related costs associated with domestic violence cost the country more than $4 billion. So not dealing with it for the sake of saving money doesn't appear to be the answer, Brooke.

BALDWIN: So hang on a second.

CAREY: OK.

BALDWIN: So, within the city of Topeka, if this thing passes tomorrow, committing domestic violence wouldn't necessarily be breaking the law.

CAREY: OK.

This is the question I put to the spokesperson for the city of Topeka.

BALDWIN: OK.

CAREY: If a woman is assaulted in her home tomorrow and this vote passes, what is she supposed to do?

He says, she should still call us for help. We will still come and help her. Will still make an arrest and we are sorting out who is going to prosecute, because clearly...

BALDWIN: That's where the money comes from.

CAREY: Exactly, and acknowledges that this is not the answer.

BALDWIN: What are some of these domestic violence -- I'm sure they're up in arms over this.

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CAREY: They're very upset. They say that it sends a message that domestic violence is not a crime. And in fact since September 8, when all this started, 18 people have been released from jail in the city of Topeka because nobody has filed charges while they try to figure out who was supposed to file charges.

This is what domestic violence groups are worried about.

BALDWIN: Wow. We will be talking about this tomorrow.

CAREY: We will.

BALDWIN: Without a doubt.

Richelle Carey, thank you very much.

CAREY: Thanks for having me.

BALDWIN: Still to come here, a new twist in the hunt for a missing 10-month-old baby girl. Investigators are now focusing on the family's home and there is video. We will show that to you. Plus, he is one of America's most infamous mobsters. And now that Whitey Bulger is behind bars, after decades on the run, we are now learning today who tipped off the FBI. And this tipster was apparently watching CNN.

Also, should illegal immigrants get financial aid? Should they get cash for college? It is happening now in one state.

And speaking of students, wait until you hear what kids are doing, what they're doing to get drunk. Have you heard about this? Wait. Wait for it, Richelle Carey. It's become such a trend police are now having to warn kids with regard to this upcoming Halloween, rapid fire next.

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BALDWIN: Coming up next: a dramatic rescue off the Florida Keys, several people stranded in the water for 20 hours, after the boat capsizes, including a 4-year-old girl who held on to a water cooler for dear life. But what the heck were they doing in the water in the first place, especially since the weather was apparently a major threat. That's next.

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BALDWIN: A boat sank off the Florida Keys at about noon Saturday. Several of the people on board were not rescued until nearly noon yesterday.

So do the math. We're talking some 20 hours later. Here is the boat or I guess I should say what's left of it, kind of bobbing upside-down in the water. This is off of Marathon key. Eight people were on board when that boat went down. One woman drowned. Others clung to a cooler, including this little child, or clinging onto the boat.

JACQUI JERAS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yes, 4-year-old.

BALDWIN: Yes, Jacqui Jeras here with more.

You mentioned a 4-year-old clinging on to the cooler. Amazingly, she made it. But what I guess I didn't realize upon initial reading of the story was that the weather was horrendous.

JERAS: Yes, it was terrible. I can't imagine 20 hours in conditions like this.

Take a look at the radar map, because this will really help spell it out for you. And it will show you the storms that were across the area. There was a lot of lightning. There were heavy downpours. And look at this. This was almost nonstop throughout that 20-hour period.

There was a couple-hour break there and then things redeveloped and went on through. The seas were really high, Brooke. We're talking about eight- to 10-foot waves. BALDWIN: Not a good day to go boating.

JERAS: Oh, just terrible. And so it begs the question, what were they doing out there in the first place?

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JERAS: It really does, because we knew days ahead of time. We were actually thinking that a tropical storm could develop.

BALDWIN: Is the storm still out there?

JERAS: Yes, it is. In fact, I'm going to walk over to the weather map up here and I will show you where it is, because it continues to be a problem here.

We thought it was going to become a tropical or a subtropical system over the weekend. It sure got close to it anyway. And now it's causing a lot of problems across the Southeast into Georgia, across the Carolinas, and the winds are incredible. A lot of beach erosion here and a lot of coastal flooding, too, so really dangerous conditions still off the coast here. And look at those sustained winds, 35 miles per hour, so really, really brutal.

Also, by the way, the water temperatures down there in the Keys down to about 80 degrees, maybe 79 degrees in the area, and if you're in the water between three and 12 hours at water temperatures below 80, like between 70 and 80, you can get hypothermia.

So, unconsciousness, you become confused and all those kind of things, so really kind of scary. You don't think that. The Florida Keys, Brooke, right, you think the water is toasty, it's not a problem. But they did have some mild hypothermia as a result.

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BALDWIN: I'm Hurricane Jova?

JERAS: Yes, Jova. This is on the other side. This is over into the Pacific Ocean.

BALDWIN: OK.

JERAS: And it's kind of unusual, too, the way this thing is approaching towards the coast. Only like one in a dozen storms make an approach this way, but this is a major hurricane. We're talking Cat 3 with winds 125 miles per hour. It should be making landfall we think some time late tomorrow near Manzanillo.

This is a very touristy area. You have heard of Puerto Vallarta, right?

BALDWIN: Of course.

JERAS: They could see be seeing hurricane-force wind gusts as this thing moves on through, really heavy rain, lots of mountainous terrain here so we're concerned about landslides and mudslides, and a lot of wind damage and a lot of power outages can be expected along the coast especially.

BALDWIN: OK, Jacqui Jeras, thank you very much.

Religion suddenly at the center of this controversy involving Republican presidential candidates. One high-profile Christian pastor says Mormonism, which Mitt Romney is part of, he called it a cult. And that is one of the reasons why he's supporting Texas Governor Rick Perry.

Reaction pouring in. Gloria Borger is standing by with that next.

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BALDWIN: There's still a lot of reaction to those comments over the weekend from a Texas minister, a supporter of Rick Perry, calling Mormonism a cult, Mormonism being of course the religion of Mitt Romney.

And CNN's chief political analyst, Gloria Borger, joins us with more on this from Washington.

So, Gloria, so far, we are seeing the Romney camp kind of handling the criticism a bit differently than this time four years ago, are we not?

GLORIA BORGER, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Right.

Remember four years ago Mitt Romney actually had to give a speech on religion and his Mormonism in order to sort of explain it to America as well as to Republican voters. This time, when you had that pastor going up there and calling Mormonism a cult, he didn't address it directly at all.

In fact, he decided to take on somebody else who essentially said that Mormons don't deserve protection under the First Amendment. But instead of doing it directly, what he said was -- and I quote -- "We should remember that decency and civility are values, too," and he left it at that.

And by the way, Rick Perry denounced, of course, the fact that the pastor said what he said. Actually, I should say he just distanced himself from it because he didn't want to be affiliated with those remarks.

BALDWIN: So then how much of an issue or a problem will this be for Romney come -- come primary time?

BORGER: Well, it's kind of hard to say. It's clearly not as great as it was four years ago, but it's still an issue that lingers, Brooke.

Take a look at this ABC News/"Washington Post" poll in which Republican primary voters were asked about whether they'd be less likely to support a candidate who is a Mormon. And in June, only 20 percent said they were. But if you look back in December 2006, 36 percent said they were. And I believe that you have to think that among those 20 percent, lots of those are evangelical Christians who might not support a Mormon under any circumstance. But I have to say, Brooke, that when it comes to conservatives, Mitt Romney's largest problem is not his Mormonism.

His problem is that they don't trust him on the social issues. And so they're very skeptical about him as a candidate. They don't like him on health care either. So, Mormonism aside, Romney's got problems with the base voters in the party.

BALDWIN: Gloria Borger, thank you very much.

BORGER: Sure.

BALDWIN: Now this:

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We just want our baby back. Please, bring her home. Our two other boys are waiting for her. Please, just drop her off anywhere. We don't care, just somewhere safe where she can come home, please.

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BALDWIN: The desperate hunt for this missing 10-month-old baby girl taking a huge turn now -- why investigators are looking at the family's home to get inside the mind of a possible kidnapper.

Plus, a psychologist takes the stand in the trial of a man accused of killing a mother and her two young daughters in that brutal home invasion in Connecticut. And for the first time, we are hearing quite disturbing details about Joshua Komisarjevsky's childhood, what he did to his arm. Sunny Hostin is on the case next.

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BALDWIN: We are now learning new details about Joshua Komisarjevsky, the man on trial for that horrific deadly home invasion in Hartford, Connecticut.

And the details now are coming in from a psychologist who testified on behalf of the defense.

And Sunny Hostin is on the case.

And, Sunny, when you read some of this stuff, it's obviously quite, quite troubling when it comes to Komisarjevsky's childhood in this report from the psychologist Dr. Leo Shea.

And Dr. Shea says Komisarjevsky told him he was sexually abused by a 15-year-old. And I want to just point out something else of what he says. He talks about his earlier memories, some really disturbing stuff that obviously happened to him when he was very young.

But he also told the doctor that he started self-mutilation when he was 13. And I just want to read this quote to you -- quote -- "I started to cut myself because it was soothing. I did this up to 17 years old. I carved hate into my arm when I was 14. I hated everything about my life."

Obviously, it's horrific, the details about his childhood. But do you think that this will lead the jury to be at all sympathetic to this man?

SUNNY HOSTIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: I don't think in this phase, Brooke. And we heard about this before. We heard about this in the first trial.

There have been books written about Joshua Komisarjevsky. And so he was an adopted child who did suffer terrible sexual rape and abuse by one of the foster children that was brought into his home, his parents' home. So there's no question that he had a difficult life.

He is also clearly guilty of these horrific crimes. So I don't think in the guilt phase of this trial the jury will have any sympathy for him. I think he will be found guilty. This may come in as a mitigating factor, though, in the penalty phase.

So I've said this all along, Brooke. This case against Joshua Komisarjevsky is very much about the death penalty, not whether he'll be convicted of the underlying crimes, because I think that's a done deal. But certainly this could be considered in perhaps sparing his life when it comes to the penalty phase.

BALDWIN: So then perhaps you would say the same about the fact the psychologist also cites medical records that show Komisarjevsky sustained at least five concussions, caused him to have cognitive difficulties, again, perhaps more mitigating for death or life?

HOSTIN: I think that's true. I mean, when I heard about that in the -- put into the defense's case, I was surprised they put it in this early in the guilt portion of it.

BALDWIN: Why would they do that?

HOSTIN: Yes. I don't think that will spare him a conviction in this case. Perhaps they're just not giving up the opportunity to sort of poison the well to get the jury acquainted with perhaps the motivation behind these terrible crimes. And then we'll hear more about those mitigating factors during the penalty phase.

BALDWIN: OK, let's move on to case number two, talking about this missing baby out of Kansas City, Missouri. So Police and FBI over the weekend did this reenactment of a possible kidnapping scenario, essentially testing the voracity of the parents' story that dad was out and mom was asleep and someone broke in through the window and snatched this child. When it comes to the reenactment in and of itself, is that typical or atypical, Sunny, for law enforcement to do?

HOSTIN: I think it's sort of atypical. Certainly it's not done in every single case, and it's interesting when you look at what happened here. They appeared to be testing the voracity or perhaps the lack of voracity of the parents' story. So they're definitely crossing their t's, dotting their I's to see if their parents have anything to do with this abduction or the missing child, because, let's face it, Brooke, not only are stranger abductions very rare -- people are usually abducted by their neighbors or someone known to the family -- infant stranger abductions are extremely rare. And so the investigators here really are faced with a situation that just doesn't happen very often in the way that these parents claim it to have happened.

BALDWIN: OK, so infant abductions, according to statistics, happen with a known person, be it, I don't know, someone who comes into the home often or a parent or a family member. Do these infant abductions, Sunny, typically have happy endings or not?

HOSTIN: That's a great question, because infant stranger abductions do typically have a very happy ending. Very, very high rates in terms of retrieving children, because stringers that abduct infants usually do that because they want to have children of their own. So they don't abduct children to kill these children. So if this happened the way her parents claim it happened, then there is a very, very good chance that this little girl will be found and brought back home.

BALDWIN: Here's hoping that is precisely what happens. Sunny Hostin, thank you so much, on the case for us this on this Monday.

Federal prosecutors are now cracking down on what has been called a culture of corruption in the health care industry. Medicare and Medicaid patients being overbilled or billed for treatment they actually never received. Deb Feyerick has a story of a Vietnam veteran who exposed a major case of fraud.

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DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Going through his Medicaid statements one day, Richard West realized he was being billed for nursing care he wasn't getting.

(on camera): You weren't even here on some of the days that the company alleged they provided service for you.

RICHARD WEST, ABLE WEST, INC.: I wasn't here. I had no service.

FEYERICK: And yet here it is, billed.

(voice-over) The 63-year-old Vietnam veteran suffers from muscular dystrophy, and requires nurses seven days a week just to shower, dress, and replace the oxygen tank he needs to breathe. Yet when he called the Medicaid hotline to report Maxim Health Care Services and complain that his nurses were either leaving early or not showing up at all, he was told he was wrong.

WEST: They were getting paid for eight hours, and I was just getting sicker and sicker, and they did nothing.

FEYERICK: His spirit intact, the former U.S. infantryman hired a lawyer and filed a whistleblower lawsuit in 2004, triggering a six- year criminal investigation.

(on camera) Are you surprised at what people will try to do to rip off the Medicaid system?

TOM O'DONNELL, OFFICE OF INVESTIGATIONS, HHS: Yes, I'm surprised every day.

FEYERICK: Tom O'Donnell heads New York's office of investigations for Health and Human Services. It turns out maxim, with hundreds of offices, wasn't just overbilling Richard west, but Medicaid recipients across the country.

O'DONNELL: Probably the most egregious thing they did is they were overbilling and fraudulently altering the time cards.

FEYERICK: How much money were they essentially ripping off?

O'DONNELL: I think that the actual amount was about $61 million.

FEYERICK: Prosecutors reached a deal with Maxim Health Care Services, which cooperated with investigators and has new restructured under new management.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: None of us can afford our government's coffers to be bled by fraud.

FEYERICK: The company will pay $150 million, half of it to reimburse 41 states that were overcharged. Nine Maxim executives and employees have pleaded guilty to various charges. Others were fired for misconduct. In a statement to CNN, Maxim's new CEO praises Richard West for uncovering the fraud, saying the company takes full responsibility, and has established a new infrastructure, quote, "including an entirely new senior management team and an unrelenting commitment to strict compliance with all laws."

Although prosecutors did not accuse Maxim of compromising patient care, West says he almost died twice because of life threatening infections he got when nurses failed to show.

WEST: There were nights I didn't know if I would wake up. And that's the reality.

FEYERICK: Because West exposed the scheme, he's set to get $15 million under the whistleblower's act. That means he could end up paying for his own health care and likely lose the medicaid benefits for which he was initially fighting.

Deborah feyerick, CNN, New York.

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BALDWIN: Deb, thank you.

Life or death moments as one pilot runs out of gas. The whole thing caught on video. Wait until you see how he escaped.

Plus, when you're a kid who is raised by same-sex parents, hearing words like this can be hurtful.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They would call me gay, faggot, gay boy.

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BALDWIN: Coming up next, CNN's Anderson Cooper sat down with a couple of kids who reveal their worst moments at the hands of bullies.

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BALDWIN: Take a look at this piece of video. Here's a plane that lands in the middle of the ocean. The pilot had apparently run out of gas and was forced to make this emergency landing in the ocean. He landed near Hilo, Hawaii, climbed out of the cockpit, there he goes, up, up, and away. Coast Guard eventually rescued him. Amazingly, no major injuries.

And almost every day there are kids across the country who simply fear going to school because they are bullied beyond the limit. And some don't want to live anymore. Anderson Cooper sat down with these student and a couple of celebrity guests who are joining the fight to end bullying. And here are their stories.

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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: How often do you get bullied, pushed around?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Almost every day.

COOPER: Almost every day?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

COOPER: And Damien, how about you? You're straight but your two dads are gay, and you're on the gymnastics team, which people make fun of you for. What do people say to you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They call me gay, gay boy, faggot, gay man.

COOPER: What do they call you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They call me dike, faggot. I've been even called words I'm ashamed to say to this day.

COOPER: Dylan, you've recently been taken out of the school. You're now being home school. Did you just not feel safe in school?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Kids made me feel like I was the grossest person in the world. They would just go against the wall and say, "here comes the he/she" or "here comes the trash." And they just made me feel gross and I didn't feel safe at school so I just left.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm sitting here and stewing with rage and I just feel so angry and so upset for the four of you and your class experience. And it seems to me that this is all backwards. Instead of taking it up with the kids who are tormenting daily and using abusive language and being abusive to their students this young man can't even go to school anymore. He shouldn't be the one having to stay home. I just want you to know that people do care about you. I care about you, and I really feel touched for your experience.

COOPER: Jay, you and your wife are raising a daughter. When you hear these kids, what goes through your mind?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: These kids do need to know they are loved, and it's really, really sad that they don't have an advocate. I think this neutrality policy is abdicating the adults' responsibility for protecting these kids. And it's really very sad. It makes me very sad.

COOPER: How do you get through the day, Kyle?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I pray every day that I didn't have to go back to school. And I go --

COOPER: You pray every day you don't have to go back to school.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. I'd hide under the seats of the bus. And --

COOPER: You'd hide under the seats?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would. And then I'd go to the nurse three times a day at least.

COOPER: Just to get someplace that you felt safe.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To go home.

COOPER: I understand at one point how many kids did you know who were bullying you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There were 40.

COOPER: There were 40 kids? You could identify 40 kids?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

COOPER: I want to thank you kids for your courage and your strength. I think you're just so impressive and so brave. I think you have tremendous courage. Thank you. Appreciate it.

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COOPER: Yesterday when I interviewed Kyle and I was talking to him, I said, is there anything else you'd like to say? He said, I would like to sing a song. So he said that to me when he came and sat down, he said, can I sing? So Kyle is going to sing his favorite song.

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(SINGING)

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BALDWIN: Go, Kyle. It is time for all of us to take a stand. All this week at 8:00 eastern Anderson and CNN will bring attention to America's bullying crisis. And then Saturday night watch with us "Bullying -- It Stops Here," the town hall led by Anderson at 8:00 eastern time.

We have just gotten new video. In fact these are live pictures from our affiliate in Boston, WCBV. These are the Occupy Wall Street protests. Folks, this is day four since this began in New York. A myriad of grievances manifested in these protests really across the country. Bottom line, greed is not good, and constantly they say we are the 99 percent. Keep in mind there is a poll in fact also just out. Half of Americans now are aware of these Occupy Wall Street protests. Live pictures, Boston.

Still ahead, Wolf Blitzer joins me live as he gets ready to interview one of President Obama's former employees, a man looking to take the president's job.

Also this --

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SGT. ROXANNE LASSEN, SACRAMENTO POLICE: The baby at that time was profusely sweating and was starting to go into somewhat of distress.

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BALDWIN: Police say a man left his 5-month-old inside a hot car and went on a date at McDonald's. Find out who saved this little girl before it was too late. That's next.

But first, our friends at CNN money are looking at the best jobs in America all week long. On today's list, the best jobs if you're over 50. So here you go -- number five, a private tutor, obviously teaching experience a plus. Number four, online content marketing writer. What does that mean? The person who makes sure what a company is advertising is actually keeping with the product they're selling. Number three, energy field auditor. You can set your own hours, help homeowners cut their energy bills.

So what are the top two jobs for the 50-plus category? The answer is after this break.

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BALDWIN: So you've thought about this. What are the top two jobs in America if you're of the over-50 crowd? Number two, personal trainer. A lot of fitness conscious baby boomers doing this. And the average income -- more than $50,000. Number one, a grant coordinator. If you're a good writer, feel passionately about a nonprofit agency or a school, you can make upwards of $47,000 a year writing grants.

We are mere moments away from "THE SITUATION ROOM." And Wolf Blitzer as always joins me for a preview. And Wolf, today, live in "THE SITUATION ROOM" is Jon Huntsman.

WOLF BLITZER, CNN HOST, "THE SITUATION ROOM": Yes, John Huntsman. We're going to talk about what's going on. He's spending a lot of time in New Hampshire, basically bypassing Iowa. But he thinks he has an opening potentially among more moderate Republicans in New Hampshire.

I also want to ask him how he feels as a Mormon -- there are two Mormons are running for the presidential nomination -- in the aftermath of all of these ugly words being said about Mormonism, Mormons being part of a cult, if you will, not being real Christians. How does he feel about that? We're going to get into that a little bit as well.

He delivered what his campaign describes as a major foreign policy address today. We'll talk about that, talk about some of the other Republican candidates. Lots to discuss with Jon Huntsman here live in "the situation room." That's at our new time

BALDWIN: I know. You're in 10 minutes. We moved back an hour. See you in 10.

Meantime, here is one for the "We can do better" file, folks. Sadly this one involves a young man barely out of childhood himself who apparently hasn't picked up on the best parenting practices yet at the age of 18. He went to meet a friend for lunch, a date, at a McDonald's. Police say he parked his car across the tree behind a tree on the far side of the parking lot not adjacent to this restaurant. And he left his five-month-old daughter inside said car. Lucky for that baby girl, a car pulled up next to her.

And our affiliate KXTV reports that this woman inside was talking on her cellphone for a couple of minutes. But when she got out she noticed the baby in the car right next to her. And thankfully she picked up the phone and decided to call the police. I want to you listen to what officers describe when they arrived.

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SGT. ROXANNE LASSEN, SACRAMENTO POLICE: The baby that time was profusely sweating and was starting to go somewhat of a distress.

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BALDWIN: Distressed and sweating profusely, a five-month-old. So around this time, dad showed up at his car, was arrested. He's in jail, charged with felony child endangerment. Baby is being held in child protective services. I already know what you're going to ask, you know. You want to know where the mother was, right? Or where is the mother? CPS says they are looking for a quote "responsible adult" in the baby's family to release her from their custody. Thank goodness someone noticed a child alone in this car and 911. Would you do that? We can do better.

Watch this.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm so happy. Everyone here in Time's Square.

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BALDWIN: Coming up next, three years ago, she ad mad crush on Obama. Now Obama girl, not so sure. We will tell you why.

And guess who fired paperwork for a possible congressional run. He played a big part in the 2008 election. I just checked twitter. He is trending at this moment. Joe Johns has the answer. Political Pop is next.

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BALDWIN: Now to tomorrow's news today. Let me tell you about the underwear bomber trial set to begin tomorrow at a U.S. district court in Michigan. Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab is accused of trying to detonate an explosive device in his underwear on board that Christmas Day flight into Detroit. That was back in '09. Abdulmutallab is representing himself that trial.

Also, first lady Michelle Obama is cohosting with a National Geographic Kids magazine a "Let's Move" event. They hope to capture a Guinness world record for the most jumping jacks in a 24-hour period on the White House's south lawn. Look for that video from us.

Also President Obama heads to Orlando, Florida for two campaign fundraisers. The first will be held at downtown Sheraton, while the second will be held at the home of John Morgan, founder of the mega- law firm Morgan and Morgan.

And ex-Beatle Sir Paul McCartney tied the knot yesterday for the third time to American trucking heiress Nancy Shevell. The private London ceremony was held while McCartney married his first wife. In attendance the only other living Beatle, Ringo Starr and his wife. Also McCartney's daughter and fashion designer, Stella McCartney, who also designed the bride and groom outfits for the day. And yet another well-known guest, Shavell's second cousin, Ms. Barbara Walters. Sir Paul McCartney told reporters, quote, "I feel absolutely wonderful."

And Political Pop today. We have a couple characters, shall we say, from the 2008 election now back in the news. Joe Johns joins me. Are you ready for this one? So Obama girl apparently no longer crushing on Obama?

JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: Yes. I hate to say it that these are sort of retreads, right. But it's still a good story. You remember the video. It was four years ago, the Obama girl, let's listen. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Cause I got a crush on Obama

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BALDWIN: Oh, yes, we remember the Obama girl.

JOHNS: Fantastic, right? The "Daily Caller" is reporting that first of all, the "Caller" is a conservative, sort of on-line entity. It was a conservative take on things. A lot of conservative contributors. But they are recording that Amber Lee Etinger, who is the Obama girl in this video, isn't quite ready to call the Obama presidency a slam dunk success. She says he had a lot of work to do. He was brought into a situation she said that was very hard. Not a lot of people would be able to deal with that situation and a lot of work to do, right? I reached out to her, haven't heard back, unfortunately.

BALDWIN: She hasn't gone back to you, Joe Johns?

JOHNS: I know, isn't that awful? E-mails and everything. She apparently though has a soft spot in her heart for Arkansas, former Arkansas governor, Mike Huckabee who she calls "The nicest guy I have ever met in my entire life." She has appeared on a couple of his programs on FOX News Channel. So, who knows? The crush on president Obama may be over. But like I said, she hasn't gotten back it he yet.

BALDWIN: Obviously, the Obama girl is the lit nous test for who will win in 2012. You have to stay on that.

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JOHNS: Totally.

BALDWIN: So someone else from 08 is filing paperwork to run for Congress. Do tell.

JOHNS: Absolutely. This is Joe the plumber. Everybody knows about Joe the plumber. This is a guy who approached the then senator from Illinois, who was running for president, Barack Obama, and asked him a bunch of questions at a campaign stop in my home state of Ohio, specifically about taxes and whether Obama's plan was going to raise taxes on him if he ever bought his own sort of plumbing operation.

It really caught fire. John McCain started using Joe the plumber and so much excitement. The question, even back then, was how is he going to monetize this, cash in on it, if you will? Now we know that Joe the plumber filed papers to run for congress, right there in Ohio. This is the district of Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur.

And it might not be real easy for him though, because Kaptur might end up running against Congressman Dennis Kucinich, another Democrat butting heads due to redistricting. And then the winner might end up facing Joe the plumber. So a lot of intrigue there in the state of Ohio. So it'll be interesting to see what happens four years later for Joe the plumber.

BALDWIN: What has Joe the plumber been up to the last couple of years?

JOHNS: You got me. I know he wasn't very happy about all of the notoriety and the way it got handled with John McCain, even complained about it a bit. But I'm not sure what he's been doing. Although he got his 15 minutes of fame, and now it looks like he could get a little bit more than that.

BALDWIN: He just got his 16th minute of fame here on CNN, thanks to us. That's your Political Pop here on this Monday.

Thank you so much for watching. I'm Brooke Baldwin here in Atlanta. Coming up live in "THE SITUATION ROOM," the man who once used to work out with the president in President Obama's administration, now wants his job, Jon Huntsman. That and more coming up. "THE SITUATION ROOM" with Wolf Blitzer starts right now.