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[01:00:00] JOHN VAUSE, CNN NEWSROOM ANCHOR: You're watching CNN NEWSROOM live from Los Angeles. Ahead this hour, two of the London attackers have been identified and neighbors of one of them say they've tried to warn police. The feud goes on after Donald Trump criticized his handling of Saturday's terror attack; the Mayor of London says, the U.S. President's state visit to Britain should be canceled. And in Mosul: civilians rushed to leave the city before the final assault on ISIS. Hello, everybody! Thanks for staying with us for another hour of NEWSROOM L.A. I'm John Vause.
With two of the London attackers identified, there are growing questions about security lapses in Britain. Khuram Butt on the left here was a British citizen born in Pakistan; Rachid Redouane is on the right; the third attacker is yet to be named. Meantime, all 12 of those arrested in raids in East London have been released without charge. And Prime Minister Theresa May reiterated her call for a tougher stance on extremism.
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THERESA MAY, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: With as the threat evolves, our response must do so too. We cannot go on as we are: enough is enough. We must do more, much more to take on and defeat the evil ideology of Islamist Extremism, but preaches hatred so as the vision and promotes sectarianism.
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VAUSE: Isa Soares, joins us now live from 10 Downing Street. So, Isa, it seems not only were these attackers down to British intelligence, we had this, apparently, the neighbors tried to warn police about the ring leader.
ISA SOARES, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT AND ANCHOR: Very much, sir. And it seems many people are scratching their heads as to how is it they got through the nets. And what we know at the moment is that one of them at least, John, was well-known not just to police but was actually known to security services. Let me talk to you about the two men that we know, that died in the hail of bullets on Saturday night. I want to start with Khuram Shahzad Butt, British-born but from Pakistan, 27 years of age. We're told that recently he and his wife had a baby. He's being
described as neighbors as being softly spoken, but also friendly. We know from afar that he - that security services had him in their eyes because, in 2015, they opened an investigation into him, into his activities. But it seems that he was part of the Lower Echelons of the 500, so investigation - counterterrorism investigations are open because they didn't see any evidence of an attack that was being planned. So, he belongs though, to a group that is known here as Al Mucharin dune in the U.K. A group with links with Anjem Choudary, the very well-known hate preacher who has been arrested here in the U.K., who still remains in prison.
And if we can bring up the footage of him in a park and which is a part here in the U.K. Because he was a part, John, of a documentary here in the U.K. called "The Jihadis Next Door." And he was seen unfolding a black ISIS flag in regions' park. So, that is the first man. The second man we know as Rachid Redouane, 31 years of age, he describes himself as being the Iraqi, as well as Libyan, and he is a chef. So, two men that we're learning more about, but of course, there's still that third man. That third attacker that is still outstanding. John.
VAUSE: OK. Isa, thank you. Isa Soares, there live at Number 10, a rainy day - rainy day June day in London. Thank you. Well, joining me now for more on this: former FBI Agent, Bobby Chacon; And Dominic Thomas, who Chair's the Department of French and Francophone Studies at UCLA. Bobby, first up to you. You know, we're now learning more about what the British are up against here. 500 active investigations into more than 3000 suspected Jihadis, another 20000 are considered to be a person of interest. And the reality is, you know, only a handful of terror suspects can be monitored at any one time.
BOBBY CHACON, FORMER FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION AGENT: Absolutely. I used to monitor people in New York, for example, Mafia Chiefs and stuff. When you want to put on 24 hours surveillance, you want to put somebody under 24 hours surveillance, seven days a week, it's incredibly manpower intensive. And we could only do it for days, maybe weeks at a time.
When we did it weeks, we had to borrow from other units. It's just too man power intensive to keep people under that kind of surveillance unless they're doing something wrong and then you can actually put your hands on them and take them to jail. But when they're not, you just can't keep it up, that's just too many people to do it.
VAUSE: So, now, we're going to the political realm here, because Theresa May is going a lot of hate from her time as Home Secretary because it's, you know, at least two of these eyes are now into intelligence and kind of slip through their fingers. And on of the things that Prime Minister May is being criticized is that she cut police numbers during her time as Home Secretary. So, in some ways, is this vote now for her about her record of keeping Britain safe.
[01:05:11] DOMINIC THOMAS, UCLA FRENCH AND FRANCOPHONE STUDIES CHAIRMAN: Right. And she's the one who's, ultimately, you know, called the snap election-she didn't have to but she did, greedily. And has been trying to expand here base in the House of Commons but, of course, some, her record from 2010 until 2016, she was David Cameron's Home Secretary; she was in charge of these particular questions.
And of her watch, the last three attacks: in Westminster, in Manchester, and now in London; ultimately, she's going to have to - she has to deal with this and she has to take responsibility for some of her decisions and actions going into this. And I think also, be very careful how to not instrumentalize these particular attacks for the purposes of electoral gain. This is a difficult time and we've seen various responses from both Corbyn and also the Mayor of London to these attacks.
VAUSE: And to Bobby, many are blaming Theresa May for what happened, you know, because two of the men were known to MI-5. One of them was in a television documentary called the "Jihadists Next Door," which seems taken up to a whole new level. And just like the Manchester bomber, again, known to authorities, but is it fair for, you know, some like the Homeland Sec - of Home Security Secretary - of Home Secretary, rather, to actually be the one that gets blamed for this?
CHACON: Well, you know, whether it's fair or not that's politics, right?
VAUSE: But it won't her - I mean, she wouldn't the one to totally know what they've done with that guy.
CHACON: Right. And then in reality, like we earlier, you couldn't possibly put on enough personnel. Even if she hired people, no less cut people, you can't put on enough people in you security forces to monitor these people 24 hours a day. And that's the paradox of this situation is these guys, as bad as it looks, when they're in a local park and they're doing these activities.
If it doesn't break the law, the law enforcement can't put their hands on them and take these guys off the street, they are espousing part. Now, it's up to the policy makers, you know, to move that line. We in law enforcement, they cross that line, we're going to bring them in and we have that, you know. But that line, they haven't crossed. If the policymakers want to move that line so that we can bring more of these people in, that's up to them.
VAUSE: Which now seems to be what Prime Minister May is calling for. You know, but Dominic, the issue of security, this was not meant to be a problem for Theresa May especially when you look at her opponent: Labour's Jeremy Corbyn and his record in the past.
THOMAS: Right. I mean, yes, it's true, but she took an enormous risk. She could've stayed in power until 2020 by calling the snap election. She's not only trying to give herself a mandate, because, of course, she just took over for David Cameron. And to extend that till 2022, which in theory was to allow her to go through the Brexit negotiations with greater parliamentary support.
But of course, from the moment she called it, all the way through to now, lots has happened and that was a big risk that she took. And we've seen her lead drop from over 20 points when she called this to a single digit. And it's not just the sort of, you know, the question that we know of terror, her campaign has been pretty strong, and Corby has done better than expected. And let's face it, her meeting with E.U. Commission President, Jean-Claude Juncker, did not go very well, which has further highlighted the fact to the British people: these Brexit negotiations are not going to be easy.
And one last point, of course, for this, is we know from all the research on intelligence is that the more coordination and articulation that takes place, the better off one is. The worst thing for the U.K. right now is to withdraw from the European Union and to lose access to the coordinated intelligence and terrorist reports that are available to them.
VAUSE: You just speak to that, how much of a problem or a difficulty does that present?
CHACON: Well, it obviously presents a problem. Now, they're going to have to figure out ways to overcome it, that's just going to be, you know. We're not in E.U. but the FBI-my former agency-has an office, a substantial office right in London. We have eight or twelve FBI Agents fulltime stationed in London, we liaison with the police and with intelligence agencies all the time. We have men on the ground, men, and women on the ground. It's very important to be on the ground, elbow to elbow, with your foreign counterparts.
VAUSE: Because (INAUDIBLE) which is in everybody's interest-
VAUSE: Just very quickly. We have these cut in police numbers where Theresa May is being wildly criticized for. Police, you know, are used primarily to stop a terrorist attack, they don't prevent the terrorist attack and there's a very big difference. And you look at Britain right now, the lengths they go through, is there much more that they could do on the issue of prevention? I mean, there are security cameras everywhere, you know, there is surveillance.
CHACON: Yes. And I don't think so. I think the forces in England are very good, and London, itself, has incredibly well-trained police force. And I think that you know, where intelligence now crosses into operation law enforcement, you know, the line, you know, there are lines. And like we said before, you know, a lot of people say, well, he was known, so he should have been stopped. Well, that's not necessarily true because a lot of these guys are known to us. That doesn't mean we have enough to arrest and take them off the street.
[01:10:02] VAUSE: And Dominic, that's a nuanced point of view, which doesn't - you know, when you're in politics you say, let me explain, you know you're in trouble. But is it just the security issue which is costing her dealing in the opinion polls, polling from 20 percent down to, you know, a single digit?
THOMAS: No, it's not. The campaign, as I had mentioned just earlier, you know, has not really being done well. I think Corbyn has over - has performed better than we thought, and she's underperformed. VAUSE: But there was also an issue with Donald Trump, I guess.
THOMAS: Yes. So, this is the thing, you know, is that ultimately we have this sort of vacuum, this void, you know, between the United States and mainland Europe, the European Union. And Theresa May attempted to fill that gap by essentially, you know, hitching here wagon to Donald Trump and sort of presenting him as this great an ally. And I think that you know, President Trump's response to these attacks has - have not been the kind of response one would expect of a friend and an ally. And it has put Theresa May in a difficult position, but it's a choice that she made strategically thinking that Trump's support would help her in her negotiations with the European Union.
VAUSE: It does seem that Donald Trump has basically, kind of as popular Mayor in Britain right, after this spat between the two. Dominic and Bobby, good to see you both, thank you.
CHACON: Thank you.
THOMAS: Thanks, John.
VAUSE: Well, hundreds have gathered in the rain in London and attends on Monday paying tribute to those who died in the London rampage. Mayor Sadiq Khan led a minute of silence before addressing the crowd.
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SADIQ KHAN, LONDON MAYOR: This is our city. These are our values. And this is our way of life. London will never be broken by terrorism. We will step up the fight against extremism and will defeat the terrorist.
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VAUSE: And living up to their reputation, the people of London are once again showing resilience and determination not to be intimidated by the terrorist. Here's Fred Pleitgen.
FREDERICK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Meticulously looking for even the tiniest clue. Forensic workers comb through the scene of Saturday's terror attack. But just a few yards away, the city is getting back to its normal pace. Commuters rushing to work: one of London's ways of defying the third act of terrorism since April.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think over the weekend, the coverage, and known number of people that thwart London has been determined, and I think that's absolutely what we are.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The English we used to is, something that we just, we just come to here at times, isn't just carrying on.
PLEITGEN: The terrorist plowed through London with a van on Saturday night, killing at least seven. On Monday, the grief and sorrow are still very present. Many stopping and laying a flower at the edge of the crime scene, some overcome with emotion. There is more police on the streets for extra security, but otherwise, the city is barely missing a beat. There was incredible carnage here on London Bridge as the van apparently swerves from side to side, trying to hit as many people as possible. But only a few days later, the bridge is open once again, with people walking across enjoying the London skyline: defiance in the aftermath, defiance during the attack. Romanian baker, Florin Morariu, is being hailed as a hero for hitting one of the attackers in the head with a basket to save people hiding in the store he works at.
FLORIN MORARIU, BAKER: I have two baskets, yes. I need to take on two baskets, yes. One is (INAUDIBLE), is no - it's like that these guys, yes. Number two basket is delivered in the face.
PLEITGEN: You hit him in the face with the basket?
PLEITGEN: Florin Morariu, also recorded the moment immediately afterward. The chaos and the carnage, he says, he doesn't feel like a hero.
MORARIU: It's not about the threat. Maybe it's my father, maybe it's my brother and this one man, yes? If it's possible to help-help.
PLEITGEN: Keep calm and carry on they say in Britain and that's exactly what London is doing-the resident's and the tourists, appreciating their city and its many attractions even more after a tough weekend. Fred Pleitgen, CNN, London.
[01:14:10] VAUSE: A short break. When we come back, Donald Trump continues to criticize London's Mayor and his handling of the terror attack, and we now have a response from Sadiq Khan, that in moment. Also, (INAUDIBLE) say the President may have just found his way out over a Supreme Court victory on his travel ban.
[01:16:36] VAUSE: Donald Trump's stumps are causing trouble again the Twitter in chief's latest post could undermine the legal case to his travel ban. And he continued to criticize London mayor of the wake of the weekend terror attack. Jim Acosta has details.
KHAN: We will defeat the terrorist.
JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: With London still reeling from a terrorist attack, the White House is defending President Trump's stinging tweets landing that city's Mayor. Asked about the President tweet at least seven dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there was no reason to be alarmed.
SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY: The point is there is a reason to be alarmed.
ACOSTA: Deputy Press Secretary Sarah Sanders insisted the President did not intentionally mischaracterize Mayor Sadiq Khan's response to the attack.
SANDERS: I don't think that's actually true, I think that the media wants to spin it that way.
ACOSTA: But listen to the context, the Mayor was urging Londoners not be alarmed about dump security and the City after the attack.
KHAN: Londoners will see and increase police presence today and of the course of the next few days, no reason to be alarmed.
ACOSTA: Also in his response to London, the President renewed his picture of ban of travels coming in from six majority-Muslim countries, the same ban that's tied up in courts. Justice Department should ask for an expedited hearing of the water down travel ban before the Supreme Court and seek much tougher version. The President tweeted adding "People the lawyers in the courts can call up whatever they want, but I am calling it what we need and what it is, a travel ban" the President's use of the term travel ban directly contradicts his own aids.
SEAN SPICER, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: This is not a Muslim ban; it's not a travel ban it's a vetting system to keep America safe.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sean Spicer from back to podium said it was not a travel ban, isn't it a travel ban?
SANDERS: I don't think the President cares what he calls it. Everybody wants to get into the labels in this semantic Soviet but the bottom line is, he's trying to protect the citizens of this country. The danger is extremely clear.
ACOSTA: Top White House officials insist the media are too focused on the President tweets.
KELLYANNE CONWAY, COUNSELOR TO THE PRESIDENT: This obsession with covering everything he says on Twitter and very little of what he does as President.
ACOSTA: But Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway's own husband who is under consideration to become Solicitor General said the tweets being jeopardized the administration's push for the ban. This tweets may make some people feel better George Conway tweeted but they certainly won't help the Solicitor General get five votes in the Supreme Court. Which is what actually matters, sad. Jim Acosta CNN, the White House.
VAUSE: And the U.S. government contractor with top-secret clearance is facing charges for leaking classified information about Russian hacking in last year's Presidential election. 25-year-old Reality Winner, yes that is her name, admit she intentionally leaked the documents. According to the Web site, the intercept the detail a Russian military cyber-attack on a U.S. voting software supplier, there is no evidence, for now, the hack affected any votes. Joining us now is CNN Political Commentator Democratic Strategist Dave Jacobson and Republican Consultant John Thomas. Good to have you both here with us. Dave, the timing here does it raise any questions, the NSA report is dated May 5th, four days after that the FBI Director James Comey is fired by the President.
DAVE JACOBSON, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Extraordinary questions and I think the - look at the end of the day you've got a testimony coming up on Thursday, where Comey's going to go before them. I think that provides extraordinary political father. I think Democrats and Republicans ought to weigh in and they ought to figure out, why the - how long the FBI knew about this, why the American public wasn't informed about this we were told repeatedly that there wasn't any hacking into voting machines and now we see evidence that stand and start contrast to that. So I think, look, the American public deserves to know the fact and precisely what happened. And to the extent of how deep the hacking was because this report doesn't reveal sort of all the details of what exactly happens, so we need to get to the bottom of this.
[01:20:21] VAUSE: Yes, in itself is book plus a report that put in context of everything else going around at John, what sort of impacted this will have when --
JONH THOMAS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well I mean it's certainly is going to - look it was must see T.V. before on Thursday with Comey it's really must see T.V. at this point. But look there's no good time to fire the Director of the FBI, they're involved in a whole host of things a lot of which has to do with people who don't like us abroad. So I'm not surprised and look this is a -- this memo was a fishing scheme that is not - again not surprising that the Russian didn't just target one or two people at a fishing scheme, you have to go fishing for a lot of people to see who bites so it's just not that surprising.
VAUSE: Do you think that the White House would have released this information?
THOMAS: I like that, think so at some point I don't know because I'm not (INAUDIBLE) at that kind of classified information, I know when timing would be right. But you like to think some point when they go look this what Russia did, we've done a post-mortem clearly they haven't done that yet but at some point, I like to think so.
JACOBSON: And we should be - yes you were right but I think at a time when you've got a President who for weeks of the inception of his Presidency was talking about how we have the largest electoral landslide, American Presidential history a person who continues to spew out false after sending back to the inauguration the crowd side. When you think about that I don't know that they necessarily would have leaked this information because it would have further undermined his argument that he was, you know, essentially elective with this tremendous landslide victory. VAUSE: OK. Well, you know, this Russian investigation hangs over the White House but there's also a might another issue and this ones seems to be of the President's own making for his travel ban and early morning Twitter rampage, a few hours ago the President doubled down on his Twitter rant defending his travel ban, he posted this, "That's right we needed travel ban to certain dangerous countries, not some politically correct term that won't help us protect our people!". Mostly alleged person believes that the serious of tweets on lying his own legal team as they appeal to the Supreme Court, so John why wouldn't the President be aware of that?
THOMAS: I mean perhaps he is and just doesn't care, a part of what Donald Trump was elected on is that's right, he's not politically correct he says what he thinks and I think that's a refreshing to his base now doesn't hurt his legal argument, about legal experts sound like he does though. I think where his coming from is that he's so frustrated that he seem radical Islamic terrorism happening everywhere around the world and he's coming up what he thinks he's concrete ways, in fact, I think one of the attackers was from Libya which I believe is on his list. He's thinking perhaps that attack could have been stopped.
JACOBSON: Well I think one of the other questions that this raises is this there a sort of growing rift between Donald Trump and his Attorney General Jeff Session right? I think, you know, he said why did the DOJ sort of watered down. He's criticizing his own administration.
VAUSE: For the Executive Order he signed.
JACOBSON: Which he signed, precisely. And so, you've got this growing rift of course, you've got the President basically saying, we should go back to the original plan. It raises questions of, you know, Iraq is in that first Executive Order. So does he really think that we've got boots on the ground, should we be going and banning folks coming from Iraq? So, a lot of questions that are being raised here.
VAUSE: It was a big day on Twitter on Monday for the President. He continued his feud with London's mayor that was when he, you know, President Trump criticized using a comment that was surely out of context. So, we now have a response from Sadiq Khan. This is what he said.
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KHAN: Since yesterday, I've been working with the police, with the government and others to deal with the horrific attack. I certainly don't have the time to respond to tweets from Donald Trump.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Would you like a State Visit to be called off?
KHAN: Well, my position remains the same, you know. I don't think we should worn out of the carpet to the President of the USA in the circumstances where his policies go against everything we stand for.
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VAUSE: Sadiq Khan is by far the most popular man in Europe right now. It's all because of Donald Trump. Every time he goes off to somebody, whether it's, you know, the French President, Emmanuel Macron, he gets elected with the sort of pre-healthy margin, after being attacked by the, you know, Donald Trump's support. He's a prominent vote. He goes after Sadiq Khan. He boosts their popularity right now.
JACOBSON: Totally. Look, frankly, I think it's an outrage that Donald Trump was exploiting the terror attack in London for his own political gain, trying to raise awareness, and build political support back at home for the travel ban. I think, frankly, this is a country who've got a very special relationship with but he's injecting a massive wedge in between our country and the U.K. in a time where we desperately need allies around the world.
VAUSE: But it's, you know, the Twitter thing, John, seems to be backfiring right now whether it's on the travel ban, undermining illegal team to the Supreme Court, whether it's an attack to Sadiq Khan. It just seems that what we're trying to campaign is not working right now.
[01:25:08] THOMAS: It requires a different set of skills. The campaign is a much leaner operations, it's easier, it's more about generating headlines, and it is driving message past the legislation. Now you've got the White House and all of the communications team, all of the departments, they all have to be synced up together. And having somebody tweet their own stuff certainly undermines that. But you know, some voices, the President's frustration that Europe and our supposed allies are screwing up on what's so important with President Trump which is fighting terrorists.
JACOBSON: If he cared so much, then he should be a lock step with NATO and agreeing on Article 5; an attack on one is an attack on all. He's exploiting, he's creating a rift between us and our closest allies.
VAUSE: He deliberately left the Article 5 reference out of the NATO speech. But I just want to know, how much of this do you think could be just a distraction? You know, trying to distract from the occurring testimony.
JACOBSON: If there's one thing that Donald Trump is brilliant, it is creating headlines and shifting the narratives and trying to distort what's on the news and create his own narrative. And I think that's precisely the strategy that he's trying to embrace right now. We've got a blockbuster week coming up with the former FBI Director Comey, testifying before Congress. He's trying to change the conversation; he's trying to shift the story. You got him talking about infrastructure. Obviously, that's not making headlines right now because of this tweet. But I think he's trying to be a shapeshifter and just change the narrative.
THOMAS: You called it a distraction. He says refocusing because what he really cares about is not Russia, its terrorism and solving that problem. That's classic Trumpian, right? Something sad or pathetic when you disagree with them, so.
VAUSE: OK. Hillary Clinton has waited on Trump's much-criticized response to the London terror attack. This is what she said.
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HILLARY CLINTON, UNITED STATES FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: This is a time for us to reach out to the world. To understand more about what is happening, not just in our country but indeed, across the globe. This is not a time to lash out, to insight fear, or to use tragedy and terror for political gain.
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THOMAS: She's really blaming anybody but herself. So, I'm surprised she's not blaming London and others for this. I don't know why she continues to give policy speeches other than, I guess, she's now raising money -- dark money in one of those, you know. Yes. I guess she can't help it. I mean, that's the whole reason their egos are so big, they're starting to be relevant. I just think nobody ever cares. I think Democrats are wishing to kind of go, what?
JACOBSON: I worked for Hillary in 2011. I love Hillary Clinton but I do think it's time for someone else to sort of carry that mantle. And I think there's a vacuum right now in terms of the Democratic Party. We need that fresh blood, we need that leader to step up and be that voice.
VAUSE: OK. Dave and John, political commentators for CNN. Thanks to you both. We will take a short break. When we come back here on NEWSROOM L.A., stories of survival from Western Mosul. Those who escaped ISIS despite the suffering they've been through it from the hands of the terror group.
[01:30:34] JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back, everybody. You're watching CNN NEWSROOM, live from Los Angeles. I'm John Vause, with the headlines this hour.
VAUSE: More now on the London terror attack investigation. British authorities are defending a decision to downgrade an inquiry into one of the men who carried out Sunday's deadly attack.
We get details from Brian Todd.
BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Newly released video, a clip of the attackers walking through London's Borough Market looking for targets. London Metropolitan Police have named two of the three terrorists. 27-yeawr-old Khuram Shazad Butt, a British citizen born in Pakistan, and 30-year-old Rachid Radouane, who claimed to be Moroccan and Libyan. Khuram Shazad Butt was already widely known as a radical Islamist supportive of ISIS. He's seen here in a British Channel 4 documentary, "The Jihadis Next Door" praying with others in front of a black Islamic flag unfurled at a park. In this ITN video, he protests his treatment by police.
KHURAM SHAZAD BUTT, KILLED IN ATTACK: English white person anonymously can form a group. But because he's white and he's English, he can.
TODD: A friend says Butt told him his wife had given birth to a new baby several months ago.
Khuram Shazad Butt worked for the London underground for just under six months as a trainee customer services assistant leaving in October last year.
Police say Butt and two others were in this van when it slammed into several pedestrians on London Bridge Saturday night. Police say the van crashed and the attackers then went on a stabbing rampage in Borough Market before police quickly arrived and killed all three suspects.
The third attacker has not yet been named by police.
One of the suspect is believed to have lived in this building in East London. That building and other properties in London's Barking g neighborhood have been raided by police.
Police are now looking for more accomplices.
Erica Gospery (ph), who lives in the Barking neighborhood, told CNN she recently went to the police after she saw a man believed to be one of the attackers teaching local children about Islam in a park.
ERICA GOSPERY (ph), BARKING RESIDENT: Seven, we saw this gentleman speaking to the kids and gathering them in the park and speaking to them about Islam and showing them how to pray.
TODD: Was that Khuram Shazad Butt? Police say he was known to the Metropolitan Police and MI5.
Erica Gospery (ph) says after she reported the man to police, she's not sure if they followed up on it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's some 20,000 people of interest to the authorities. 20,000. It is very hardfor them to keep monitoring every single one of them on a continuous basis. It requires huge manpower, resources to monitor just one person, and sometimes two dozen are required.
TODD: This resident of the Barking neighborhood says one of the suspects came up to him the day of the attack as he was loading a van and asked him how to rent one.
UNIDENTIFEID BARKING RESIDENT: He came up to me and he was a little bit over nice, if you like, and it was quite strange. He said he was asking about the van. He says to me, oh, where can I get a van from, starts asking how much is it.
TODD (on camera): And additional information CNN is picking up on the suspects, one alleged attacker had an alleged connection to Ireland according to a source briefed by an Irish counterterrorism official, but it's not clear which attacker that was.
Brian Todd, CNN, Washington.
[01:35:02] VAUSE: The Chinese prime minister is calling an armed standoff in Melbourne a terrorist attack. Authorities say the gunman killed a man at an apartment and took a woman hostage. And called a local news station, dedicating the attack to ISIS and al Qaeda. ISIS claimed him as one of their soldiers but offered no evidence. Police shot and killed the man after he opened fire, wounding three officers.
About 100,000 children are caught in the crossfire in western Mosul, the latest major stronghold for ISIS in Iraq. The U.N. says the children are being killed, injured, being used as human shields as government-led forces try to retake the rest of the city. And the U.N. is calling on both sides to stop attacks on civilians.
We know a lot more about the suffering in Mosul from those who have escaped, and others who risk their lives to save.
And a warning, the images you are about to see are disturbing.
CNN's Arwa Damon has this exclusive report.
ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They stumble towards the Iraqi troops. They're breathless. Their voices are shaking from fear and shock.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
DAMON: They use single sentences that seem to hardly encompass the scope of what it is that they've actually just been through.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
DAMON: And as ISIS is squeezed into even smaller territory, the civilians they're holding hostage are running out of food.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
DAMON: It was only enough to feed the children, to try to keep them from crying out. She and her husband, they went hungry.
On the front line helping the Iraqi army is Dave Eubanks, he's American ex Special Forces, with his team of Free Burma Rangers, volunteer medics.
DAMON: Days earlier, ISIS massacred dozens of people who were just trying to make a run for it. And Dave was called to the scene.
DAVE EUBANKS, FORMER U.S. SPECIAL FORCES & VOLUNTEER MEDIC HELPING IRAQI ARMY: We saw 13 bodies and we saw movement. Here they are. Look at that wall.
DAMON: A man alive and a I little girl who creeps out from under her dead mother hijab, where she'd been hiding for two days hugging her mother's corpse.
DAMON: They use the tank for cover to move out, dragging those they just saved past the corpses of those who perished.
DAMON: The little girl has not yet spoken. Not a single word. No one even knows her name.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
DAMON: The next morning, they spotted even more movement.
EUBANKS: We ran, got across the road, went through rubble like this, and ISIS was on three sides of us. We could hear them talking. Crawl throw, find a street where ISIS is shooting. They threw a line to her. She tied herself. Three days, no sleep, no water, wounded.
DAMON: Much of western Mosul is already apocalyptic. And the fight for the last square kilometers is going to be so much worse than anything we've seen before.
There's no past blueprint for this kind of warfare. No one has fought an enemy like ISIS holding civilians hostage in a dense urban battlefield.
We go to a clinic that's further back from the front line. There's an old man who can't speak from the shock.
DAMON: And a little girl. Her name is Maria. She's 10. And there with her older sister. They say a mortar hit their house just as they were trying to make a run for it. One sister they know is dead. They saw her lifeless body.
DAMON: The others are buried under the rubble of their home. But ISIS still controls the area.
UNIDENTIFIED GIRL: (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
[01:40:16] DAMON: The reality of what she's just said perhaps not quite sinking in. Or maybe she's just looking for any distraction from a loss that she cannot yet fully comprehend.
Arwa Damon, CNN, Mosul, Iraq.
VAUSE: The number of nations that cut with Qatar is growing. Yemen and the Maldives joins Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates. The nations accuse Qatar of supporting terrorism. Qatar calls those allegations baseless.
Ian Lee joins us live from Istanbul, Turkey, with more on this.
So, Ian, explain to us how this affecting people acutely living in Qatar now because there is a definite impact and it will be probably be felt more as this standoff goes on.
IAN LEE, CNN CORRSEPONDENT: Yeah, John, it's felt across the board. First, you have foreign nationals from some of those countries like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the UAE. Those nationals have been told that they have to leave Qatar and Qataris living in those countries have been told that they also need to leave. Diplomatic relations have been severed. Air space has been close to Qatar's national carrier from entering those countries, also flights to and from Qatar have been halted. And you have probably what is affecting people the most is that border that connects Saudi Arabia and Qatar has been closed. And Qatar gets up to 40 percent of their food from Saudi Arabia. So yesterday, we were seeing runs on the market where people were going, trying to buy food because they fear that there could be shortages. Inflation could rise. Also Qatar is a financial hub. And so there is fear from companies about doing business in the gulf from Qatar.
What we're really seeing here, John, is the financial squeeze on that country.
VAUSE: What more do we know about Kuwait playing a role as mediator to try and end this dispute?
LEE: Kuwait has played meditator before, when they've had disputes within the GCC like this. This time Kuwait called -- the emir of Kuwait called the emir of Qatar and said, show some restraint and also do not escalate the situation. There is really hope not only from other countries in the region, and the players in the region, but from a lot of people that this can be resolved, that this dispute can go away. But right now, this is probably one of the strongest responses we have seen from other countries against Qatar in a long time. And there is really a long list of grievances, going from supporting terrorism like Isis and al Qaeda. This is coming from Saudi Arabia, although Saudi Arabia has also been accused of supporting these terrorist groups. Also to Iran where Qatar has somewhat cordial relations with Iran. And for Saudi Arabia, it is their regional rival. So there is a lot of disputes here. Some also saying that President Donald Trump's trip to the region last month emboldened Saudi Arabia and some of the gulf countries to take these steps. So there is a lot at play here. It will be difficult for Kuwaitis to try to bridge this divide -- John?
[01:45:43] VAUSE: Ian, thank you. Ian Lee live this hour in Istanbul.
We head to Southeast Asia now where one entrepreneur is trying to give women a lot more opportunity in the tech industry.
Kristi Lu Stout has this "Road to ASEAN" report.
KRISTI LU STOUT, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The morning begins as days have for centuries. Devotees arrive to this pagoda, the centerpiece of a majority Buddhist Myanmar. In a traditional society emerging from a military rule, the temple is a favorite social spot for Cho Zin Wint and her friends. But as reform quickens the pace of life, women are looking for new ways to connect.
For Cho Zin Wint, a self-described Geek Girl, now is the chance to forge digital pathways for women to connect in business and in society.
CHO ZIN WINT, DIRECTOR, SOFTWARE DESIGN COMPANY: More women are trying to take more routes in technology in Myanmar.
STOUT: At 32 years old, Cho Zin Wint runs one of the country's most successful software design companies. Hers is one of few tech businesses run by a woman.
Her success has been supported by an all-female collective call to Geek Girls Myanmar. 3000 members strong and growing, Geek Girls hold meet ups and workshops to help overcome barriers for female innovators and entrepreneurs.
SANI SEIN THEIN, FOUNDER, GEEK GIRLS MYANMAR: We stay one step behind the men on technology.
STOUT: The digital age has been slow to dawn in Myanmar where around one in five people have access to the Internet and not many users are female. The challenge, to get out on the road and engage with people learning about the Internet for the first time.
THEIN: They come from all walks of life. (INAUDIBLE) STOUT: The Geek Girls hope that through bravery and innovation, they can succeed in breaking down gender barriers and ensure that female technicians are at the forefront of social and economic change in Myanmar.
Kristi Lu Stout, CNN.
VAUSE: Well, still to come, the sexual assault trial has begun for the man once known as America's dad. As Bill Cosby walked into the courtroom with his TV daughter, prosecutors painted a picture of a man nothing like the character he played on TV.
[01:50:07] VAUSE: The sexual assault has b3egun for comedian TV star, Bill Cosby. It is on charges that he drugged and sexually assaulted a woman 13 years ago. More than 50 other women have made similar accusations but this is the only case likely to make it to criminal court.
Here is Scott McLean
SCOTT MCLEAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Bill Cosby arrived at a Pennsylvania courtroom Monday with support from a former Cosby show, costar, Keisha Knight Pulliam. Accused of sexual assault by more than 50 women over several decades, he has never faced a jury until now, on charges of aggravated indecent assault.
Andrea Constand, the former basketball coach who met Cosby at his alma mater, says, in 2004, she was drugged and molested. Cosby says it was entirely consensual.
Dozens of other women have made similar accusations but only one will be allowed to testify.
GLORIA ALLRED, ATTORNEY: The point of the prior bad act witness is to attempt to demonstrate that there is an absence of consent.
If the jury believes Kelly, that he also gave her a pill, that she also became incapacitated, then there is a pattern, a plan, a theme of design.
MCLEAN: In opening statements, the prosecution painted Cosby as a calculated man who abused his fame and power and used a well-practiced method to drug and assault Constand. But the defense portrayed Cosby as a flawed man, vulnerable to false accusations because of past infidelities.
The trial is expected to last at least two weeks. Cosby has no plans to take the stand.
In Norristown, Pennsylvania, I'm Scott McLean. (END VIDEOTAPE)
VAUSE: Joining us now, victims' rights attorney, Lisa Bloom.
Lisa and her mother, Gloria Allred, represent some of the accusers. But it's good to get your perspective, someone on the other side of this.
OK, so the prosecution on Monday asked jurors to separate the TV character, Doctor Huxtable, the lovable TV character, from the defendant. Would you say that the defense is taking the other approach, trying to drown that out, especially since he walked into the courtroom arm and arm with his TV daughter?
LISA BLOOM, ATTORNEY: Yes. I think that's a real concern because Bill Cosby is an actor. When he was Doctor Huxtable, he was acting. That's very obvious to you and me, but I think sometimes forget we have beloved TV characters, we bond with them, and I think they're trying to play on that.
VAUSE: There was also a tweet Cosby put out on his account, a photograph of the two of them together, thanking them for being there. Would the jury see that? Is that part of a defense strategy?
BLOOM: They are not supposed to be looking at the media, but I'm sure some of them probably did see it. Juxtapose that with the fact that Bill Cosby's real family was not there. So it's almost as though he's trying to craft in the minds of the jurors Doctor Huxtable and not Bill Cosby.
VAUSE: Andrea Constand, who is the center of all of this, she is expected to testify. Bill Cosby is not. Is that significant?
BLOOM: It is to me. I think it is very disturbing and a travesty of justice that so many of the women are silenced. We're only going to her from Andrea Constand and one other accuser, who testified today. The other 50-plus women, including my client, are not allowed to testify. Bill Cosby himself won't testify. So it's all about the women, it's about trashing the women, it's all about cross-examining Andrea Constand, and the woman who testified today. Andrea Constand, according to many reports, is gay. Bill Cosby's defense is that he had consensual sex with her. It doesn't make sense on the face of it.
VAUSE: The prosecution is making a lot of inconsistencies in the statements that Constand make to police when this alleged attack happened 13 years ago. Longer than that, when she was 30 years old. How is -- if you were on the team here, the prosecution side, how would you address that issue, these inconsistencies in what she has told the police?
BLOOM: We have to understand how rape works and how rape victims testify. It is never in a straight line. I've been doing these cases for 31 years. Every single time, it is one step forward, one step back. Nobody wants to be in a scandal like this, so when they do, and they testify, sometimes a little bit erratically. When you had the fame factor of somebody like Bill Cosby, Andrea Constand did not want to talk about it. She did not want to come forward. When she did, she didn't do it in a perfect way. Women shouldn't have to be perfect to get justice in a sexual assault case.
VAUSE: How brutal will it be when she takes the stand?
BLOOM: It will be brutal. The reports just from today that the other woman who testified, the corroborating witness --
VAUSE: Kelly Johnson?
BLOOM: -- that she was yelled and screamed at on cross-examination by Cosby's lawyer. So I think multiply that times 10 for Andrea Constand. I think that can really turn off the jury if you yell at a woman like that.
[01:55:04]VAUSE: Yeah. Surely there are some people who will look disproving at that.
This trial initially was billed as a "he said, she said," and in this case, his word against hers, but now we've found the prosecution will present evidence from a psychologist that the symptoms that Constand suffered were similar to essentially the symptoms of Quaaludes. Cosby said they used Quaaludes on a consensual basis. So how does that evidence effect the "he said, she said" factor?
BLOOM: I think it is very important. And you are right, Cosby has admitted in a deposition transcript under oath that he obtained those medications for the purpose of drugging women into sex. He says for consensual sex. But Quaaludes were illegal at the time and he has denied getting Quaaludes to Andrea Constand. So if the jury believes the toxicology that is what she had in her system, why the lying, why the cover up, why did you have to drug her if she was having consensual sex to you. The prosecution is going to make a case bit by bit and try to create a mountain of evidence. The defense will try to pull out each piece and attack each piece. The prosecution only has to present beyond a reasonable doubt. They don't have to prove everything to which he 100 percent -- we will see. It will be a very tough case.
VAUSE: It's is a tough case. If there is an acquittal, you must look at this, which way - what will bring about an acquittal?
BLOOM: The fact that Andrea Constand did have dozens and dozens of phone calls with him afterwards. Every case I have had, acquaintance rape or date rape, which is what this is like, that is common. Women will still have contact with him afterwards, especially in this case, because he was mentoring her.
VAUSE: -- worked at Temple University and he was part of the university.
BLOOM: She was also trying to get him to admit what he did. Apparently, he did, although he said it was consensual. These cases are complicated. Many of us are ignorant about rape and how it works. We expect a rape victim to be like some other kind of crime victim but the research is clear, that's not the way it works. I hope the prosecution can explain that to the jury, and they'll be open to it.
VAUSE: It's a traumatic event that obviously -
VAUSE: Lisa, thank you so much.
BLOOM: Thank you.
VAUSE: You've been watching CNN NEWSROOM, live from Los Angeles. I'm John Vause.
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