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Source: White House Trying To Publicly Shame Tillerson; U.S. Embassies On Alert After President's Retweets; Pope Says The Word Rohingya In Bangladesh; Report: Kim Jong-Nam Carried Antidote To Vx Poison; Global Warming: Greenland's Melting Glaciers; World Headlines; Rohingya Crisis; Going Green; Royal Engagement. Aired 8-9a ET

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KRISTIE LU STOUT, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong and welcome to News Stream


LU STOUT: A sources tells CNN, reports that Rex Tillerson might be replaced as U.S. Secretary of State are aimed at publicly shaming him. And

expressing President Trump's displeasure, we'll have the latest.

Well, reports say Kim Jong-un's half brother was carrying the antidote to the poison which killed him at the airport when he died. And what happens

in the Arctic will affect the whole world. We'll take you to one of Greenland's fastest moving glaciers and the huge chunks of ice into the

sea, much quicker than anyone expected.


LU STOUT: And we begin with another possible shakeup at the White House. Reports emerged yesterday that Rex Tillerson's job as Secretary of State is

on the chopping block.

Now a source tells CNN that those reports were a White House effort to publicly shame Tillerson into quitting. So he could be replaced by CIA

Director Mike Pompeo.

Tillerson has been on thin ice with President Donald Trump for months, but especially sense he never actually denied that he once president a quote,

moron. This is what the White House had to say about Tillerson on Thursday.


SARAH SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: When the president loses confidence in someone, they will no longer serve in the capacity that

they're in.

The president was here today with the secretary of state. They engaged in a foreign leader visit and are continuing to work together to close out

what we have seen to be an incredible year.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you have Rex Tillerson on the job, Mr. President?

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: He's here. Rex is here. Thank you very much, everybody.


LU STOUT: All this should make for a pretty interesting conversation later today when President Trump has lunch with Rex Tillerson as well as his

defense chief James Mattis.

Now the impact of replacing America's top diplomat would go far beyond Washington. CNN's Nick Paton Walsh is in London with more on the story.

Nick, again, Tillerson is expected to be on his way out, Pompeo, on his way in. What could be the geopolitical impact of this?

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: First of all, I mean the timing of this significant change probably the most prominent and powerful diplomat

in the world, having his exit imposed upon him and signaled through the U.S. Media.

Just pause and think about that in terms of a strategy. Like a bizarre reality TV show. But also, too, all that does to everything that Rex

Tillerson touches now going forward until he leaves that job.

He's a marked man, a lame duck and clearly not somebody who speaks in the authority of the White House. So look at the meetings ahead of him.

Particularly, meeting foreign ministers, things like that and pretty much consider the U.S. contribution there to be useless.

But the standing it does to U.S. diplomacy is quite staggering as well because it shows a division at the highest possible level at the same time

when there are an insane number of challenges facing the U.S. administration.

Namely above all, we have the North Korea fired in the direction of Japan an intercontinental ballistic missile. So these are the things that it

does to U.S. opposition globally.

But then the broader question is, well, when Rex Tillerson is gone, this has not necessarily been something that was anticipated at some point in

the future.

If Mike Pompeo, the CIA Director comes in, what does that mean for U.S. Foreign Policy. Well, I have to say with all things at Trump White House,

it's very hard to really know. He said himself, the only person his opinion matters is quote, him.

So if Mike Pompeo will come there with a series of differing potential ideas, he is known to be a much more hawkish figure when it comes to North

Korea, having discussed regime change, roll back a little bit at those comments.

And North Korea is an impractical idea in the first place, frankly, it would have sparked some sort of war, but also, much more hawkish when it

comes to the nuclear deal over Iraq's nuclear power and weapons -- I'm sorry, Iran's nuclear power and weapons program.

He called that disaster and say he wanted to dismantle it, talked about the needs to compile intelligence to prove the case that Iran is in violation

of it. And I think fortunately -- unfortunately then you will see that President Trump is surrounded by an increasingly hawkish number of voices

on Iran.

Jim Mattis, then Secretary of Defense, a relatively sane voice is still pretty hawkish with Iran, so as John Kelly, his chief of staff, Mike Pompeo

is very hawkish, there is a suggestion that he will replace Pompeo at the CIA, (Inaudible), he is pretty hawkish, too, so that makes for a very

troubling series of opinions that surround Donald Trump. He's not known himself to have a big background at all in foreign policy. Kristie.

LU STOUT: Yes, hawkish voices and very loyal lieutenants are surrounding President Trump, pretty soon, as we anticipate the end of Rex Tillerson.

Nick Paton Walsh reporting live for us, thank you.

[08:05:00] Now meanwhile, President Trump's posting of those anti-Muslim videos from a far right British group is drawing condemnation still at home

and abroad. It is fuelling fears and fact about safety at U.S. embassies around the world. Here's Jake Tapper.


JAKE TAPPER, CORRESPONDENT: Officials at the U.S. State Department were so concerned about the anti-Muslim videos that President Trump retweeted


They told the White House, they were actually worried that the president's actions might spark a reprise of violent protests at U.S. embassies in the

Middle East. They're already on high security alert.

Quote, it didn't manifest in anything actionable, but it was a big concern. One State Department official told CNN reporters, Elise Labott and Abby

Phillip. Just think about that for a second.

President Trump's State Department worried about the safety and security of Americans abroad, and why -- because the president recklessly pushed out

videos of questionable veracity from an extremist far right wing Britain first group.

The resulting security concerns are just another example of how far reaching and deeply felt the president's words can be. Still, this is the

White House response just minute ago.

SANDERS: What he's done is elevate the conversations to talk about a real issue and a real threat, and that's extreme violence and extreme terrorism.

Something that we know to be very real and something the president feels strongly about, talking about, and bringing up, and making sure there's an

issue every single day, but we are looking at the best ways to protect Americans. John.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On that point, Sarah, did the president when he retweeted Jayda Fransen know who she was?

SANDERS: No, I don't believe so but again, I think he knew what the issues are.

TAPPER: So, to recap, the president did not know who the source was, an extremist far right group and he saw these videos that clearly seek to

portray Muslims as dangerous savages, he thought that that would elevate the conversation.


LU STOUT: Wow. That was CNN's Jake Tapper reporting. In the last hour, Pope Francis met with a group of Rohingya refugees, the very people whose

plight has been in sharp focus during his trip to Myanmar and now Bangladesh.

And crucially, he also finally used the word Rohingya publicly for the first time since the beginning of his tour, a controversial move in itself

and that Myanmar does not recognize them as an ethnic group.

More than 600,000 Rohingya Muslims had fled Rakhine State in recent months due to alleged murder, rape and destruction in their villages by the

Myanmar military. Now our Vatican correspondent Delia Gallagher is in Dhaka, she joins us now

And, Delia, again in Myanmar, Pope Francis tiptoed around the issue, even refrained from using the word Rohingya, but he has finally said Rohingya.

He's finally found his voice there in Bangladesh.

DELIA GALLAGHER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, that's right, Kristie, it was a surprise, there were off the cuff comments, but the Pope has the last word

on criticism that he was not naming the Rohingyas.

After he met with them in spontaneous remarks, as I've said -- he said the presence of God today is also called Rohingya. And he asked for people to

continue to work for their rights. He said, their plight was an example of the egotism of the world.

So some very strong remarks from Pope Francis coming almost at the end of his trip, he leaves tomorrow and after some days of criticism, because in

Myanmar, as you say, he did not mention the word Rohingya, which is not accepted by the Myanmar government and the Vatican was saying, it's a

diplomatic trip.

It's a political trip. And the pope was trying to work towards that angle of trying to find a long-term solution and to not upset Myanmar, get them

to the table for dialogue, so that was the reason you see him there.

But he certainly has spoken out about the Rohingya numerous times and, of course did so tonight at this very important symbolic moment when he

actually met with some of them. Kristie.

LU STOUT: Yes, he's met with some of the Rohingya refugees there in Bangladesh. He finally used the term and said the presence of God today is

also called Rohingya. The Pope is expected to leave for Rome on Saturday. At the end of this trip, what do you think the Pope has achieved?

GALLAGHER: Well, coming into this, the idea, as I said, was a kind of diplomatic one. Of course, the trip has been arranged before the August

influx of the 600,000 Rohingya refugees, which created such international attention on the crisis.

There had been some before and the Pope had spoken out about it before but he was coming here to meet with the authorities in Myanmar to try -- he met

with the military general as well and, of course, Aung San Suu Kyi.

So he was trying to work behind a diplomatic angle. But people -- any papal trip and this one in particular draws attention to a certain


[08:10:00] And what I have heard from people on the ground here, from leaders and from the people, is that they are happy to have attention. Not

only on the refugee situation in Bangladesh, but also on Bangladesh's situation.

This is one of the most vulnerable countries that climate change, for example the focus also been speaking quite a lot about that, about poverty

and those other things that Pope Francis focused here. And that he thinks the world's attention should be drawn to.

He said it tonight, the Rohingya are an example the egotism of the world. Those are themes for the Pope that he continues to repeat and I think

probably coming here was able to get the world's attention on this place. Kristie.

LU STOUT: Absolutely, Delia Gallagher reporting live from Dhaka as Pope Francis wraps up his visit trip to Bangladesh and Myanmar. Delia, thank


Now to a really peculiar new twist in the Kim Jong-nam murder mystery. The North Korean leader half brother, as you called, was killed in February in

Kuala Lumpur. And now as Paula Newton reports, it appears that he was prepared to save himself.


PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It is a prophetic twist. North Korean leader Kim Jong-un's half brother was actually carrying an antidote to the

poison nerve agent that killed him within minutes.

Kim Jong-nam was allegedly poisoned with a VX nerve agent at the Kuala Lumpur airport in February. This new information from Malaysian state

media possibly indicates that the elder Kim knew he was a target.

DR. NIAL WHEATE, UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY: It sounds like to me he knew what was coming and he wanted to give himself the best chance.

NEWTON: Kim was approached by the who women in the airport who smeared the odorless, colorless liquid on his face, those two women on trial now in

Malaysia. One of the women's defense attorneys has said that the antidote known as atropine was found on Kim Jong-nam's carry-on bag in tablet form.

But in the state media report, there was a reference to glass vials, possibly indicating the substance was in liquid form. Regardless of its

form, experts caution, it was unlikely to save him.

WHEATE: The VX or any nerve agent is very fast acting. We're talking, if you get exposed enough to it, death within a couple minutes.

NEWTON: To save him from death, atropine would have to be administered immediately into the blood stream or muscle. Here is another intriguing

twist in an already baffling story, the two women charged in the murder say they are innocent and thought they were part of a reality TV prank.

And a mystery still why Kim Jong-nam apparently didn't attempt to consume the substance, he instead stumbled into an airport clinic and was rushed to

hospital in ambulance. He died en route.

As this trial continues, suspicions may now be backed up by evidence, that Kim Jong-nam lived in fear of being assassinated by his half brother and

took an educate guess on how he would be murdered. North Korea denies any involvement in his death. Paula Newton, CNN, Seoul.


LU STOUT: Now the Argentine Navy has official called off the mission to rescue the 44 crew members aboard at the missing submarine. While the

search sub continues, some families are begging the Navy to continue the rescue operation.

One said, they need to see the bodies to grief. Argentina and 11 other countries have been searching for the sub that went missing on the coast of

Argentina on November 15th.

You are watching News Stream. Still to come, the Arctic is thawing fast and dazzling landscapes are simply melting away. CNN team takes us to

Greenland to see the effects of climate change first hand.


LU STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong, welcome back. This is News Stream. They call it a global warning and it's something from one of the

most remote location on the planet, the great glaciers of Greenland are melting away.

And ice -- this ice thaws, sea levels are rising dramatically. Now CNN traveled to Greenland witness what is happening there and how it could

affect the rest of the world. This is our special report from ground zero of climate change.


CLARISSA WARD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Imagine a world where you can sail right up to the North Pole where the largest ice sheet in the northern hemisphere

is simply melting away.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The melt is winning this game.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have now broken an all-time record for three consecutive years.

WARD: As oceans continue to rise, flooding the streets of the American cities, half a world away.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What happens in the Arctic doesn't stay in the Arctic.

WARD: Imagine a world where hurricanes and heat waves wreak havoc.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Our breaking news as hurricane Irma continues to show no mercy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just a hell storm, a fire just whip...


WARD: Politicians deny the problem as temperatures continues to rise.

TRUMP: It's a hoax. I mean, it's money making industry, OK?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Greenland is at the center of climate change.

WARD: What if I told you this is already happening right here, right now. We are the primary cause and that only we have the power to stop it. This

is Greenland, though you will find very little Greenery here, home to some of the most stunning wildlife on the planet.

The world's largest island is more than 80 percent made up of pure ice. It's only from the air that you, really get a sense of the scale and the

enormity of this ice sheet.

And what is just staggering to imagine is that in the center of the island, this ice is 2 miles thick. It looks a though time had stood still for

thousands of years. But this environment reflects the big changes in our world atmosphere.

As the planet gets warmer, the Arctic is heating up at double the rate. And Greenland in particular is warming even faster. Jason Box is an

American climate scientist who has been coming to the remote corner of the world for more than 20 years.

JASON BOX, AMERICAN CLIMATE SCIENTIST: The amount of water that is produced all across this landscape has increased, like it has doubled in

the last 50 years.

WARD: Doubled in the last 50 years. Everywhere you go in Greenland, you can see, and hear the ice sheet melting, sometimes, a drip, sometimes a

roar. The surface has etched with fast flowing rivers that carry the melt water deep down to the bed.

BOX: This water cascades down, thousands of feet. And eventually makes its way to the bed. And it is heating the bed of the ice sheet.

Everything is kind of stacking up. The ice is going faster than forecast.

WARD: And no sign of slowing down?

BOX: The melts winning this game.

WARD: And the more Greenland melts, the more it speeds up the melting process. Take the large melt lakes that are forming on top of the ice

sheet, stunning to look at, but, bad news for the ice.

These lakes are deceptively beautiful because where as the white of the ice actually reflects the sun light. The piercing blue of the lakes actively

absorbs it, heating them up and then accelerating the rate of melt.

[08:20:00] Perhaps the clearest example of this vicious melt cycle can be seen in Greenland's many glaciers. A glacier is a mass of thick ice that

moves under the force of its own weight. Like a slow river into the sea.

But as melted water moves through the ice, it softens it. Draining to the bed where then it lubricates the movement of the glacier. We got a rare

close-up view of one of Greenland fastest moving glaciers. Named Helheim after the Viking Realm of the Dead, it is vast and unforgiving.

BOX: This is one of the most productive glaciers in Greenland. It's about three Golden Gate Bridges wide and it drains in the order of like, 40

billion metric tons per year. It is like almost astronomical amount of water that this is delivering from high on the inland ice sheet down into

the sea.

WARD: Between August of last year, and August of this year. New York University scientist say, Helheim retreated a whopping two miles. The

furthest retreat inland they have seen in a decade. You can see vast chunks of it, crashing into the water. A process called calving. What does that

mean for the sea?

BOX: There are hundreds of glaciers like this in Greenland. And many of them have like doubled in speed. So the rate that Greenland is decanting

into the ocean has really gone up in ways that surprise the science community.

WARD: It's not only scientists who have been surprised. Fifty-six-year- old, Tobias has been hunting with his dogs in Greenland, his whole life just like his father and grandfather before him. Only these days, there is

far less ice for dog sledding.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Fifteen years ago all, maybe from here to 500 feet or more is glacier so we can start dog sledding down from sea.

WARD: Is that something you have seen with your own eyes?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, I can see it is. Now we cannot hunt on into Longmont from dog sledding, only boat.

WARD: This year, Tobias has to take his dogs off the ice and back to town for the summer. He doesn't know if his grandsons will become hunters.

But if the recent past is anything to go by, the future looks bleak. Warming in the last century has been faster than at any time in the past

several million years. How concerned are you by the scientific data that you have collected by the changes that you have seen here.

BOX: What concerns me most is the concept of committed loss. So the amount of CO2 excess in the atmosphere due to humans burning fossil fuels

mainly. That commits us to more than one meter of sea level rise.

WARD: That is roughly, three feet. And this is where the rest of the world comes in. Greenland doesn't play by Las Vegas rules. What happens here

doesn't stay here.

As temperatures increase and the melt accelerates, Greenland has become the largest source of sea level rise globally. This year after decades of

decline, the amount of ice lost in Greenland was roughly equal to the amount gained.

But Box said this is an anomaly, and that even drastic cuts in carbon dioxide emissions won't be enough to stop the continued melting. Some have

said that if Greenland is the canary in the coal mine, the canary is dead.

BOX: The canary is dead in that it indicates, it is time to get out of the mine. In other word we have a problem. And now is the time to start

developing that response.

WARD: At summit station, weather patterns and climate change are the focus of much of the research. Remote American outpost funded by the National

Science Foundation. It is perched at 10,600 feet, on the very top of the Greenland ice sheet.

The only way to get there is on a U.S. military plane. The two hour flight from the nearest airport of Kangerlussuaq, it lands on runway of snow using

giant skis. All equipment and personnel have to be flown in at great expense.

It doesn't get much more remote than this. And with the high altitude, the science that is being done here at summit station requires enormous

resources, and sheer physical effort.

[08:25:00] But this place is uniquely positioned to answer a crucial question. Has the arctic reached a tipping point? Engineer Zoe Corbelle

(ph) explains that it is isolation is in fact its greatest asset.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is a very pristine site. And free from local influences of pollution.

WARD: Do you think summit is important to the study of climate change specifically.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We have been making measurements since 1980 here but we've also drilled to bed rock. So we have an ice core that extends back

140,000 years.

WARD: A 140,000 years?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. So we are actually standing on two miles worth of ice below us and we can use ice cores like you would use tree rings. To

get an idea of what past conditions of climate were like. And we can use what happen in the past to try to predict what's going to happen in the


WARD: But summit hefty price tag has made it a possible target for proposed budget cuts. The Trump administration wants to slash funding to

the National Science Foundation. And many fear this summit could be the first casualty.

BOX: I think it is politics of short term gain, long term environmental pain.

WARD: Box said he is frustrated by the White House's lack of commitment to climate change studies and its decision to withdraw from the Paris accord.

Some people will say listen, look back over the history of the planet there have been since ice ages, there have been huge heat waves, there is a

natural extreme fluctuation in temperatures and that is just part of living on planet Earth. What do you say to that?

BOX: It is true there are natural cycles in climate. But what's happening now is human activity has become the dominant agent of change for about the

150 years. The climate change we observe today is at least, 80 percent, due to human activity. We are now a force of nature.

WARD: And not a force for good. For millennia, mankind's presence in Greenland has been dwarfed by the dramatic scenery and by the extraordinary

living creatures we share this unique habitat with.

But in recent history, the balance of power has shifted and with it, the responsibility to do something. Clarissa Ward, CNN, Greenland.


LU STOUT: Wow, stunning images, this is one of the most critical stories of our time. You can find more at and there we have created this

incredible interactive articles illustrate exactly how fast the glaciers are melting and how the rest of the world will feel the impact.

Plus, there is even mort breath taking footage. Just go to, you can, find it there. The government of Myanmar is

accused of waging a misinformation campaign against Rohingya activists and aid groups. And just ahead, we'll hear from an activist who says his

online activities are under attack.


KISTIE LU STOUT, CNN NEWS STREAM SHOW HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching "News Stream." These are your world headlines.

Rex Tillerson's job as U.S. secretary of state could be on shaky ground. Reports emerged on Thursday that President Trump is considering replacing

Tillerson with CIA Director Mike Pompeo. One source says these reports are an attempt by the White House to publicly shame Tillerson to push him out.

Pope Francis has used the word Rohingya publicly while meeting a group of Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh. He avoided naming them directly earlier

while in Myanmar, where the government does not recognize Rohingya as an ethnic group. The U.N. has accused Myanmar's military ethnic cleansing in

Rakhine State targeting the Rohingya Muslims.

Japanese Emperor Akihito will be stepping down in April 2019 and handing the throne over Crown Prince Naruhito. The 83-year-old Akihito will be the

first Japanese emperor to abdicate in two centuries. He recently had health problems including heart surgery and treatment for cancer.

We have heard a lot in recent months about misinformation campaigns and how they use to sway public opinion or influence elections. But what about the

real time human impact? Some say the government in Myanmar is using propaganda and misinformation to dismiss reports about the persecution of

Rohingya Muslims living in Rakhine State. Nay San Lwin, a well known Rohingya activist living in exile, says his online activity has been under



NAY SAN LWIN, ROHINGYA ACTIVIST: Since last year, the government and the military have been attacking (INAUDIBLE). They have been working against me

on their Facebook page and also the official website and also on the state delegation and the state newspaper that I am spreading the fake news. They

are targeting me because you know all the -- I became like a main information source for this Rohingya plight, and we call it genocide.


LU STOUT: And in August, an online post by de facto leader Aung San Suu Kyi's office alleged that World Food Programme energy biscuits have been

discovered at insurgent camps. Human rights watchers (INAUDIBLE) the accusations profoundly irresponsible.

And Yanghee Lee, the U.S. special rapporteur in Myanmar, told CNN on this program that the trend (ph) worries her deeply.


YANGHEE LEE, U.S. SPECIAL RAPPORTTEUR IN MYANMAR: That is the first thing that I would like to call on the Myanmar government to resist this, to

refrain from this, because who -- it's just inciting more violence and, you know, violence begets violence. And then this time of the period, we can't

do any more alternative news or fake news or a horrific horror stories or rumors.


LU STOUT: Yanghee Lee there. Since August 25th this year, more than 600,000 Rohingya Muslims have fled violence in Myanmar's Rakhine State to find

refuge in Bangladesh. More than half of them are children. Earlier, I spoke to Helle Thorning-Schmidt, the CEO of Save the Children International,

about the plight of child refugees and the impact of the pope's visit to Bangladesh.


HELLE THORNING-SCHMIDT, CEO, SAVE THE CHILDREN INTERNATIONAL: He will see the same thing as I saw when I visited Bangladesh, Cox's Bzar where 600,000

Rohingya people have fled to over the last month. He will feel the same emotion that I did that this is a humanitarian disaster.

This is also a children's emergency because more than half of the people who have fled into Bangladesh, they are actually children. You see children

everywhere. They are in the mosque. They are not wearing any shoes, hardly any clothes. Toddlers carrying babies around. And, of course, many children

who have lost their parents and who are living with other families.

And, of course, Save the Children is trying to do everything we can for these children to reunite them with families and to protect them from all

things that can happen when a child is alone in a crisis like this. I know that the pope will feel the same emotion that I did,

[08:35:00] and he will try to do his best to help the Rohingya people.

LU STOUT (on camera): Have your teams in Cox's Bzar and elsewhere found children who have been separated from their families? Of course, I am

talking about Rohingya refugee children, and what are you doing to give them some support and to have them reunite with their families?

THORNING-SCHMIDT: Yes. First of all, we have spoken to many, many children and we have identified almost 2,000 unaccompanied children, children who

have absolutely no one, who has made it into Bangladesh by some miracle.

And what we are doing is we do everything we can to protect these children and try to reunite them with relatives. It is very important work because I

think some of the most vulnerable people in those camps are the children without any parents.

And we are already hearing about trafficking, abuse happening to these children. And these are children who have already seen things that no

children should be seeing. We spoke to children there, and we have gathered their stories and report.

And what we hear is actually devastating. Children who have seen their parents being killed right in front of them. Children who have to leave

their parents in their burning houses. Children who have been raped when they were in Myanmar. And we talked to these children. They told us to tell

the story to the world. Tell the stories to the leaders.

LU STOUT (on camera): Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh are in dire need of just the basics. You mentioned how children need security. They need to be

protected from traffickers. They need psychological support and counseling.

We know that the government of Bangladesh has reached an agreement with the government in Myanmar for the return of the Rohingya. But given the

situation in Rakhine State, should they be allowed to go back?

THORNING-SCHMIDT: Well, first of all, I think any return will have to depend on whether it is a voluntary return. Whether it can be done in a

sustainable and in at least dignified way. I have spoken to these people and they are scared. I mean, they have seen awful things happened. And they

will be scared to go home unless the international community can give them a guarantee that it will be done in a safe and dignified way.

So, I think that the Bangladesh government have done so much for these people. This is a poor country in itself. And even though it is a poor

country and that part of Bangladesh is very poor, they have welcomed 600,000 people.

When you are on the camp and see this camp, you cannot understand how many people there are because the (INAUDIBLE) goes on and on and on and on. So

Bangladesh government had done a lot. And of course they are talking to the Myanmar government.

But now we also have to look at it from the Rohingya people and they should only be returned if they can be done in a peaceful and dignified way. I am

hoping that the international community will be safeguarding that.


LU STOUT: Helle Thorning-Schmidt there, the CEO of Save the Children International, talking about the needs of some of the most vulnerable

people in our world today.

You're watching "News Stream." Coming up, an Indonesian man found his calling in keeping his city clean, and he is happily telling others to do

the same.


LU STOUT: Welcome back. Now, he is in his 70s, but

[08:40:00] a street sweeper in Indonesia shows no signs of slowing down. He is a man on a mission, to stop people from throwing their trash on the



UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): My name is Mr. Saravan (ph). I pick up rubbish in Bandung, Indonesia. I do this because I care about the

environment and want to keep them and want to keep my city clean.

I always teach the residents of Bandung not to carelessly throw trash on the ground.

Listen, listen. Remember, Mr. Saravan's (ph) voice. Don't throw away trash carelessly.

I have been a volunteer in the city of Bandung since 1983, and it is now 2017, right? So, for 34 years now, I have been a pure volunteer. I'm not

being paid.

To the smokers, to those who love to smoke, this is not allowed. Whoever comes to the gazebo, don't leave litter.

The world's environment gets more polluted every single day. So don't make it even dirtier. We have to keep moving together to keep it clean. Don't

just care about it. It should be planted in the heart. That is for the whole world. There is a religious teaching that says cleanliness should be

a part of practicing your faith. This applies to all humanity. The whole world. Not just for Mr. Saravan (ph).

Mr. Saravan (ph) was once called a crazy person. Crazy, crazy. But I am truly crazy. I am crazy about cleanliness. I am crazy about work.

God willing, as a parent, I can pass it on to our children and our grandchildren an environment that is clean, not one that is polluted. That

is my dream.


LU STOUT: Got to love his spirit and his message. Now, finally, Britain's Prince Harry and fiancee Meghan Markle are taking the first walk about as

world couple. They arrived in Nottingham, north of London, to visit a World Aids Day charity fair.

The newly engaged couple, they have a packed schedule which includes meeting crowds of people. They will also check in on a program that Harry

established in 2014, which provides mentorships to keep kids in school.

And that is "News Stream." I'm Kristie Lu Stout. "World Sport" is next with a preview of the World Cup draw.


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