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KRISTIE LU STOUT, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Kristie Lu Stout and it is day two here at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona. Welcome to News Stream.
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LU STOUT: The future of the mobile internet, we are debating the trial -- that we are riding smartphone controlled cars here at Mobile World
Also, an undercover mission to be smuggled -- we have an exclusive report for Nigeria where our correspondent experiences the start of a desperate
And the death of a Bollywood star. Fans are heartbroken over the passing of Sridevi. We are going to take a look back at a legacy.
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LU STOUT: Hello. It is day two here at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona where tens of thousands of people, if not more have been
gathering to see the latest innovations of in mobile tech, and to discuss the future of the industry.
Now we are going to hear from one person who can change the course of that future as the deadline for net neutrality become closer. And we are also
going to take a look at how your smartphone may soon be able to drive your car.
And Nokia is playing the mystery car, yet the again, this time, survive the retro banana phone, and the CEO of HMD (Inaudible) of Nokia who joined to
talk about the return of that tech classic.
But first, we have an update on last year's CNN investigation that shed light on the criminals buying and selling African migrants in Libya.
Now the images of that modern-day slave auction shocked the world. But in a month since that broadcast has change. Now it is as easy as ever. Nima
Elbagir went on a dangerous undercover mission to find out and here is her exclusive report.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Speaking Foreign Language)
NIMA ELBAGIR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: An unwavering neighborhood in Edo State. Edo is Nigeria's main smuggling hub where traffickers play their trade
openly. We are hoping this man will agree to traffick us to Europe.
Aveke (ph) as he calls himself is a broker, known locally as pusherman. He is one of an army traffickers working with smugglers on the Nigerian end of
the migrant routes here.
He tells our producers he can do it for 500,000 naira, that is just under $1400 each. The money is due on arrival in Libya. He warns us not to wait
at his time.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Speaking Foreign Language)
ELBAGIR: We are told to go back to the hotel. We test our undercover cameras and wait. Finally, we are told to move to the location, Auchi, in
the north of Edo State.
In that night, Aveke (ph), is working out at a local hotel at Brothel. Inside the brothel, we are told to wait. We don't know what we are waiting
for. Utterly, I am prepared but all of a sudden, we are on the move. Out journey to Europe in underway.
ELBAGIR: We move to the local bus stop where we are told we will be put on a bus heading north. But first, Aveke (ph), wants to know if I have
everything I need.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Like, what do you call it, Nigerians say here, they have a gold circle, here meaning condoms. We have kiss -- you know, kiss.
Do you know kiss? We have kiss here. You just have it in your bag for the journey -- in your bag.
ELBAGIR: So we can't travel without contraceptives?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We can get them for you, you're not paying. We'll get them for you.
ELBAGIR: As part of...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, as part of the journey.
ELBAGIR: Part of the journey you'll get it for us because the women are abused? What happens -- the women are abused in the trip?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In Libya.
ELBAGIR: In Libya? What happened? They get pregnant?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's why I was telling you to have those things. It's not guaranteed, sometimes we have to meet one of the men, like say
somebody asks, I wouldn't like to assist you. You know what that means. Don't tell me you don't know what I am saying.
ELBAGIR: Yes, I understand. They give me sign that Aveke (ph) repeats again. Condoms -- don't struggle if you are raped and ultimately, trust in
[08:05:00] With that, we board the overnight bus to the north. The door was looked behind us. From here, begins the journey into the unknown, a
journey for promises and listening of heart, raped, trafficking, slavery. Once we are sure the bus has moved out of Aveke (ph) sight, we jumped off.
We, at least are safe.
(on-camera): Stop. If we had stayed on that bus, we would be on our way to Kano now, in the north of Nigeria. Some time, the middle of the day to
see, 2:00 or 3:00 in the afternoon tomorrow, we will be arriving in Kano.
From Kano, somebody would have been waiting to take us on the next leg of the journey to (Inaudible) and from (Inaudible) to Libya. And theory on
arrival in Libya, that's when the brokers get paid.
It is incredible. That it is so public. It's incredible, that it is so brazen, that they are using public transport to start this leg of the
journey. This is the most traffic through destination in Africa.
It is the maid departure point for so much these smuggling routes. And yet, these brokers are able to play that trade so openly and to think that
it has a woman, they would expect me to be carrying contraception.
They would expect me have made my peace with that fact that it -- almost every leg of this journey, I would be assaulted and raped, and abused. It
is unimaginable that people are willing to take these risks to make it to Europe.
In the end, it was easier even we could possibly have imagined. CNN has passed on the evidence we have cover to the Nigerian authorities.
What we experience was just the beginning of nightmare. Hopefully, the Nigerian government will be able to stop anymore young women from being
lured with the false dream of a new life.
LU STOUT: Powerful reporting. Some pretty unsettling truth revealed there. CNN's Nima Elbagir joins me now live from New York with more on the
story. And, Nima, you put yourself to a risky position, posing as a migrant.
This report follows your earlier reporting on slave auction in Libya. Can you connect the dots for us? How did that reports lead to this human
smuggling investigation that you just reported.
ELBAGIR: Well, I think it was very important to try and showcase to people -- to the people around the world how interconnected these networks are. I
think at the time.
Even we had though perhaps that the slavers, those auctioning off the migrants, those exploiting the migrants in Libya were purely acting
opportunistically, that when the migrants arrived in Libya, they were then used to generate more income by being sold off a slave.
But became very powerful form our interactions with the pusherman is that these people are being set up to be exploited. You saw there, he quoted a
price to us of $1400. That is far, far less than that trip actually cost.
So they are setting these young men and women. And, Kristie, it is often very young men and women, 17-year-olds, 18-year-olds, 19-year-olds trying
to get to Europe. They are setting them up, so when they arrive in Libya, they are then told no, actually, you haven't paid enough.
You now need to accept that we are going to sell you into slavery to make up the rest of our costs, and thousands of miles away from their homes and
their families alone in Libya. They kind of have to make peace with that fate.
In addition to the trafficking, you saw him there, asking me if I was carrying my own condoms. It is very clear that the young women who were
being sent on these routes, they may think that they have agency.
They may think that they are choosing to be smuggled to Europe, Kristie. But it's clear that they are being exploited and trafficked into sex
LU STOUT: They are being exploited by these brazen human smugglers to say up front that you will be raped, you will go ahead in these public
transports to move the migrants from one place to another.
In your last report on human slave auction, Nima, that report generated so much global outrage. Do you fell that this report will generate additional
anger and will that anger turn into additional actions.
ELBAGIR: The reality is there are no easy answers, but our hope is at CNN, I think that this will at least showcase how clear it is that people are
organize, that this is a criminal network, that there is nothing left to charge in this.
And that if this is the case, then there is cost for criminal prosecutions and there has to be some kind of movement, some kind of momentum.
[08:10:00] There have been four separate meetings of the Security Council, Kristie, since CNN broadcast that report. But really, no tangible action,
and our hope at least is that this new report will remind those in a position to change things that change need to happen that nothing really
has change on the ground, that people are still being in slaves and trafficked, and exploited.
LU STOUT: Change need to happen and to end the human auctions, you have to end the human smuggling but how does one goal about stopping that. If you
can speak to NGOs, if you can speak to government to make an appeal, where should they begin?
ELBAGIR: A lot has been said about pinpointing those who benefit the most from this and there is actually a Libya sanctions committee that is active
and many of those working in this field.
And of course, we ourselves, we are journalists, we are not activist but many of those that we have been speaking to have said that perhaps
targeting those who benefit directly from this will send a message.
But in order for that to happen, there need to be intent, there need to the willing and so now, that intent seems to be absent. And hopefully, us
broadcasting it are showing that these people are still making money off human misery will perhaps motivate those who can make this happen, Kristie,
to try and get something done finally.
LU STOUT: Absolutely. And finally, Nime, we thank youyou're your bravery, you really put yourself at risk to file this report and for your
investigation. Nima Elbagir reporting live for us, take care.
Now in response to that investigation by, Nima and her team, the Edo State attorney-general told CNN this quote, we are actively involve in
investigations and commit several prosecutions. We will actively investigate and prosecute any trafficker.
Trafficking at Edo is neither solely about economic issued more on the development for these deep cultural routes that must exposed, examined and
Now CNN has report (Inaudible) around the world, on March 14th, for student's day led of action against modern-day slavery for My Freedom Day.
And in advance of this day, we asked the Moroccan musician, his name is RedOne of what freedom means to him.
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REDONE, MUSICIAN: Freedom is life with every individual with two different people, you know, and if we can help people to be free and feel freedom, we
should. I mean it's not about my effort, it everybody's effort and it can be someone that you love and (Inaudible) within himself doesn't have
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LU STOUT: Absolutely. Freedom means life. We want to know what freedom means to you. Please share your story -- your definition using the hashtag
My Freedom Day.
The president of Nigeria is calling the kidnapping of more than 100 girls at nation disaster. Armed militants expect to be Boko Haram, attacked the
girls school Monday and snatched them away.
Now government has an official list of who was taken. The school is left with 300 kilometers from the site where the 276 school girls were abducted
by Boko Haram back in 2014.
Activist has interrupted of the fist day of what was promised to be a daily five-hour ceasefire in the suburb of Damascus. The so-called humanitarian
(Inaudible) ordered by Russia.
The news agency said the Kremlin wants to stay further to ask the millions to leave the world torn area. The rescue group says several artillery and
motor shells were fired from pro-government positions, killing (Inaudible).
I am joined now by CNN Sam Kiley whose been following the story for us. He joins us now, and Sam, what is the status of this humanitarian truce and
how much aide has managed to get in?
SAM KILEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, there has been a double attempts to cease-fire, first of all, from the United Nations Security Council that
involved Russia as a member of the permanent five that has a veto over U.N. resolutions but they agreed to it over the weekend.
That didn't materialize whatsoever Monday, devastating series of airstrikes and indeed reportedly a type of chemical weapons in a form of chlorine.
Now today, the Russians offered a humanitarian pause, they are calling it between 9:00 and 2:00 in the afternoon local time. During that period,
there were surface to surface missile strikes into rebel held East Ghouta, there were also artillery attacks in which at least one person was killed.
On top of that, the government -- Syrian government, the regime says that rebels in the area of motored what was supposed to be the humanitarian aid
corridor that was being intended to years for evacuation of civilians.
[08:15:06] Notably, I think those who have been most severely injured or suffering from other medical conditions. Now there were no evacuations,
although the Syrian Red Cross said that they were standing by with a number of ambulances.
And the reason for that is also demanded that the route into East Ghouta in some areas be de-mined and that would've made it very easy for the
governments to later attack, whether the humanitarian pause is over.
That humanitarian pause is now over. That hasn't been a massive spike in violence. It could be said that the Russian pressure has definitely
mended. There has been the dialing down in the level of violence.
But East Ghouta, Kristie, remains entirely besieged and it has been out for many years. It is cut off for most supplies, medical supplies, water is
now provided only by self-dug wells, a most of the population having to spend their time in tunnels and in underground bunkers to avoid airstrikes.
They are fearful that any attempt to evacuate the (Inaudible) taken straight into government hands, whether it could be forcibly recruited or
LU STOUT: Now desperate situation for the 400,000 civilians remain trapped in Eastern Ghouta. Let's talk more about Russia and the power of Vladimir
As you mentioned, it was Russia and not the U.N., not other (Inaudible) who broker this temporary truce for humanitarian purposes. What is that say
about the power and influence of Russia in Syria today?
KILEY: Yes, I think it's fairly charitable, really to say that Russia brokered this humanitarian pause. And it seems certainly from the language
coming out of the Kremlin, this was an instruction to Syrian regime.
Now the reason of the Russians have so much power within Syria is that it was the Russians coming to the age of the aid of the Damascus regime, a
little over two years ago that prevented it from total collapse.
You recall back then, it was an area, it was shrunk down to an area around Damascus or pockets of the government held territory in Aleppo but the
rebels were very much in the military ascendancy.
When the Russians came in, they came in with ground troops, sophisticated artillery, the were joined of course by Iran and Iranian-backed militias,
Hezbollah notably from South Lebanon, that in combination with Russian airpower unleashed an absolutely devastating level of military hardware
notably on the east Aleppo, which is the last time the we saw it seems similar to seeing in East Ghouta.
And on top of that of course, the Russians brought an air defenses which prevent the international community from imposing a no fly zone. So it's
the Russians who hold most of the military cards. Kristie.
LU STOUT: Yes, and you are absolutely right. Vladimir Putin did not broker the pause. He ordered it. Sam Kiley reporting live for us, into
very much in need. All right, Sam, take care.
We are reporting live from the Mobile World Congress here in Barcelona. And earlier, I moderated the panel with the chairman of the U.S.
(Inaudible) commission, his defense of the repeal of the (Inaudible) here next.
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LU STOUT: Welcome back, this is the special edition of News Stream from the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, and (Inaudible) looking at cool new
demos about the internet and things, the AI, (Inaudible), and also, principles of net neutrality.
You know, that all internet traffic whether it is Netflix, CNN or your favorite online game in treated equally by the carriers, that has been a
hot topic in the U.S., it has been a hot topic in some part here at Congress.
But earlier moderated panel, with Ajit Pai, the chair of the U.S. Federal Communication Commission who recently announced net neutrality in the U.S.
is coming to an end. (Inaudible), by the news, tech groups, concerned groups out there, not so much, so I asked, Pai, how history were judged
AJIT PAI, CHAIRMAN, U.S. FEDERAL COMMUNICATION COMMISSION: Absolutely. And the reason is, we have experience with the Title I approach which we
As I've said in my remarks that we had a market-based approach from 1996 to 2015, that approach gave us the internet economy was the envy of the world,
companies that start of very small like Facebook, Amazon, Netflix and Google became worldwide players precisely because we had a market-based
approach that encourage infrastructure investment as well as innovation on the edge.
LU STOUT: Yes, but history also factors in public opinion and public opinion in many corners is firmly against the repeal of net neutrality. I
mean the fact that your decision led to the Burger King ad about net neutrality rules. You know, that's a testament of something.
PAI: Well, I think generally speaking, I would hope that public opinion over time is based more on facts and less on public relations campaigns.
LU STOUT: Or the fact that people believe that it will stifle innovation.
PAI: Well, you know, I think pass this prologue here just as the internet has amended the two months since we adopted her decision. We are going to
see a massive investment in increase in innovation and investment, and the confident the consumers and the entire internet economy will benefit.
LU STOUT: Ajit Pai there. Now for more on the net neutrality debate and whether less regulation in the American leadership and next generation
mobile, a lot to get to, I am joined by FCC commissioner Michael O'Rielly.
Thank you so much for joining us in the program. And I mentioned, a lot to get to, but first, I do have to ask you about Comcast. Comcast making that
$31 billion bid for Sky, the FCC economic internet.
MICHAEL O'RIELLY, COMMISSIONER, U.S. FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION: Well, we have to look at the material that are submitted and determine if
there is any rule for the FCC. So it is premature at this point.
LU STOUT: OK, and if you were look into it, what would you be looking out for?
O'RIELLY: We have obligations in terms of the sketch in terms of license transfers. We just don't know that materials will be before us if
LU STOUT: OK. Let's talk about net neutrality and repeal of net neutrality. This is getting mixed out there about the repeal and I think
about it comes down to the issue of internet pass loans.
There isn't up here that with no net neutrality protections, there will be no protections for free and open internet. So how can we make sure that
ISPs will play there?
O'RIELLY: Well, in the past, the things that we are banning in our rules that have been repealed, we are practices that the carriers were doing. So
we are trying to guess what the market was going to lead us and we're going to.
And that's problematic from the regulatory perspective. It's problematic for investment. It's problematic in terms of growth of the industry.
But in terms of prioritization issue of what in the past claims, in that instance you are talking about trying to ban anything, whether we include
prioritization and bad prioritization. And I think prioritization is not a healthy activity for a regular lane.
LU STOUT: And speaking of the perspective of the customer, because there is a lot of, you got to trust us people here, right? You got trust the
And how can customers in America trust the internet service providers when they have all the incentives to introduce to your pricing to pay the
internet, to charge for internet fast lanes, and to look out for shareholder value first...
LU STOUT: ... as supposed to what the customers want?
O'RIELLY: Well, in fairness, they have promised that that is not where they are going, and the question of trust. And that is why we have the
U.S. Congress that has an opportunity to crack legislation, and then we would follow and implement. It's not something for the commission to guess
where the market is going ahead of time.
LU STOUT: Legal challenges because there is a number of them. We have about two dozen state attorneys general filing suit and coming after you.
It's going to be a long battle ahead. Are you ready?
O'RIELLY: Absolutely. I think that the grounds of for our repeal were strongly made by commission and I think to sustained through the court
LU STOUT: U.S. leadership in ICT, the Internet Communications Technology Space, you compared from Mobile World Congress, where the world is gathered
here to talk about next generation technology, about (Inaudible).
The U.S. may have been the leader for the last couple of decades. What are you going to do to make sure that the Americans stay in proposition?
[08:24:04] O'RIELLY: Well, the United States will continue to be a world leader in wireless communications. That means, one, we are going to make
sure the section is available and we are doing our work at the commission to make more resources available, frequencies available to our carriers, so
they can offer new mobile services.
Two, into moving barriers to deployment, so that they can get the services out to consumers and be able to bring faster, more speed to consumers going
LU STOUT: All right, Michael O'Rielly with the FCC, thank you so much for joining us.
O'RIELLY: Thank you so much.
LU STOUT: Take care. Now, the White House says that President Trump said that lawmakers from both sides of the aisle on the Wednesday try to march a
way forward as suppose for gun control on the U.S. providers.
Now this comes nearly two weeks after that school massacre at Florida high school. Now recently Mr. Trump haven't committed to ending the violence.
He tweeted this quote, I will be strongly pushing comprehensive background checks with an emphasis on mental health, raise the age of 21 and end sale
of bump stocks.
Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue and I quote, but the NRA opposes raising the age to buy rifles and will President Trump
(Inaudible) on Monday not to worry about powerful gun law pressure. His sources say he is now backing off raising the age limit.
Now Mr. Trump has continued to attack deputies, saying that the failure to respond to the massacre was quote, disgusting. And he talked about what he
would have done if he was in Parkland that day.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I really believe, you don't know until test it but I think I really believe I would run in there even
if I didn't have a weapon. And I did most of the people I'm sure would have done that, too, because I know most of you. But the way they
performed was really a disgrace.
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LU STOUT: U.S. President Donald Trump there. Now, the U.S. says, the reason to keep North Korea in check won't be derailed by the retirement of
top diplomats, just like Joe Yun, served as Washington special representative from North Korea.
He's been sphere heading efforts to reign in Pyongyang's nuclear ambitions. He announced that he will retire at the end of the week and said it was his
decision to leave.
It comes at a time of rising tensions between Washington and Pyongyang, and as a U.S. ambassador opposed to the South Korea, that yet still remains
big. You are watching News Stream, coming to you live from Barcelona.
It's the Mobile World Congress is happening. Coming up, the Nokia banana phone is back. We are going to relive the 90s, the golden days. What is
new, what is staying the same on this retro revival.
LU STOUT: I am Kristie Lu Stout at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, welcome back. You are watching News Stream. Now these are your world
In an exclusive report, CNN went undercover in Nigeria to expose smugglers engineering the dangerous route that desperate migrants are taking to get
to Europe. Nima Elbagir posed as a migrant herself and she was told by a people smuggler that she was likely be raped at every (INAUDIBLE) of the
journey. (INAUDIBLE) revealed that women and children routinely face sexual violence on that journey.
(INAUDIBLE) shelling has interrupted the first day of what was supposed to be a humanitarian pause in (INAUDIBLE) suburb of Damascus. (INAUDIBLE)
five-hour (INAUDIBLE) civilians to leave eastern Ghouta, but a rescued group says artillery was fired from (INAUDIBLE) positions killing at least
(INAUDIBLE). Russia and the Syrian regime said that rebels were behind the shelling.
The president of Nigeria now admits that 110 girls missing from the school in the northeast have been kidnapped. Armed militants suspected to be from
the Islamic group Boko Haram (INAUDIBLE) more than a week ago. This comes nearly four years after Boko Haram abducted more than 270 girls from a
school in Chibok.
Now, the Finnish company HMD is recalling the golden days, bringing back the Nokia banana phone. First, it was released in 1996. You may recognized
it in a different color (INAUDIBLE). As you can see, it has a curved shaped, has a slider here, slightly larger screen. It comes in both yellow
and black, but something (INAUDIBLE) same. So is this nostalgia base or are they on to something here?
Joining me now is Florian Seiche, CEO of HMD. Thank you so much for joining us here. What an interesting release. It's the talk of the conference right
now. Is this nostalgia-bait -- the nostalgia (INAUDIBLE) the 90s make you bring this back to the market?
FLORIAN SEICHE, CEO, HMD: It is the consumer-loved -- you know, consumer- loved iconic design and we are so fortunate to have some really great designs in Nokia. Last year, we brought back the 3310 --
LU STOUT: Yes.
SEICHE: -- and consumers just loved it. The response was beyond our expectation. So we thought we will have even more fun if we can bring back
LU STOUT: Yes, I was here for the launch of the 3310, and then for the launch of this phone as well. These are both feature phones. They are not
smartphones. They are pretty much stripped down. Why in the year 2018, are people still buying these types of phones?
SEICHE: Very good question. We are actually moving people gently with these phones into the new world actually because the 8110 is coming in 4G,
so you actually get to keep all your familiar feature phone traits, but you get moved into the smartphone. It gives you enough access actually to some
of the favorite apps like Facebook. We even put Google and (INAUDIBLE).
LU STOUT: And this is an important part, because still there are many, many parts of the world where people are still using stripped-down feature
phones. They have not experienced the smartphone yet. This is going to be their way to gradually step into the the 4G reality, right?
LU STOUT: Yes, go ahead.
SEICHE: In the emerging markets, this is definitely. But in the countries like -- in the western world, it is actually just a fun way to spend your
weekend and a companion to your smartphone.
LU STOUT: (INAUDIBLE). What is the battery life?
SEICHE: Yes. We have extremely long battery life and talk time from these feature phones. Therefore, that's one of the reasons why people love them
LU STOUT: I heard it has standby power for 23 days.
SEICHE: Now, it does have some new technology built in there, a camera. I wouldn't say it is new because it has two megapixel feature, you know, but
it does have that functionality in there. How do think this is going to sell at the end of the day?
SEICHE: Again, we get tremendous response, even beating what we have seen last year, and because it is the perfect blend. It is that retro, you know,
angle. But this time, it gives us real, you know, new service features that you can use.
LU STOUT: Service features, the game Snake is in here.
LU STOUT: (INAUDIBLE) the best of Nokia through the years and decades past Nokia. After this, what's next? What are you going to launch next year at
the Mobile World Congress?
SEICHE: We are not just about the feature. Feature phone is obviously a core business of our company. We are actually number one globally in this
segment of the market. But we are very much focused on bringing a new Nokia android family in smartphones to consumers. We only started the journey.
But here in Mobile World Congress, we launched five new devices this week. We are very much focusing on grounding the Nokia brand around quality,
premium materials, things that are very important for consumers.
But also a fresh and always up-to-date android promise because consumers of smartphones actually tend to now use their phones longer. They tend to keep
them longer. So we want to give them a phone that not just new on the day they buy it
[08:35:00] but that is fresh for the whole life they use it.
LU STOUT: It sounds like you are pretty ambitious here. Let's face it, you did a good job. You know, you bought the license from Nokia. You brought it
back from the dead. You went (INAUDIBLE). They are selling well for different reasons, for liability reason. People still want to use feature
phones, who can't afford smartphones yet.
But Nokia is not what it once was, right? This is a Samsung world. This is an Apple world. Do you think you can position Nokia to return to its glory
SEICHE: We definitely have a very bold ambition to take the Nokia brand again to become one of the leading smartphone brands. But we are doing it
the new setup. We are a new company. We have strategic partnership business model that allows us to take a fresh approach and it is still in early
We are bit more than a year into this. We are encouraged by the success so far. You know, gives us the confidence to double down in 2018.
LU STOUT: All right. We will leave it at that. I am not going to buy this but I can't stop (INAUDIBLE). It's very satisfying. Florian Seiche of HMD
Global, thank you so much.
SEICHE: Thank you very much for having me.
LU STOUT: And take care. You are watching "News Stream" coming to you live from Barcelona. We have a lot more coming ahead in the program.
In fact, details from a police in Dubai are telling CNN, they say that they have no further questions about the death of Bollywood superstar. We will
bring you what they are saying about Sridevi along with a look at her extraordinary career. Keep it here.
LU STOUT: Welcome back, coming to you live from Barcelona. You are looking at a live demo (INAUDIBLE) station. You know, when you are doing VR, it
looks full (ph). When other people are watching you do VR, you know, it is kind of awkward, but these guys are having fun with that demo.
Welcome back. You are watching "News Stream." Now, perhaps you are more into VR, perhaps you want to try something else. Now, would you want to go
ride in a Porsche? Make that a smartphone-controlled Porsche. No, make that a Huawei smartphone self-driving Porsche.
Well, Samuel Burke did just that this morning who joins us. It was controlled by a Huawei Mate 10 Pro. How did it go?
SAMUEL BURKE, CNN BUSINESS AND TECHNOLOGY NEWS CORRESPONDENT: So much of this conference is about artificial intelligence inside mobile devices. So
Huawei does have a new phone. They thought, what can we do to try and show office technology in a different way?
So they hooked up that Porsche to a phone and the phone is actually making the decision to the car. You have seen this for years, trying out self-
driving cars, all different types of setups. You've seen (INAUDIBLE) occasionally and this is how it went this time around.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sort of this way. You go to (INAUDIBLE).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. We got to (INAUDIBLE) again so you get another chance.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE).
BURKE: I think what yo missed is, we got in the car, it took off very fast and then all of a sudden, it slammed on its breaks.
LU STOUT: Oh, man.
BURKE: It really didn't feel like it was supposed to and I got one of these jolts that I first started feeling when I was in self-driving cars a
few years ago. So I think the concept is interesting. It is important to know we need these types of concepts to come to life so that
[18:40:00] smartphones can do this type of computing all on their own. They don't need to be connected to the Cloud. Good news. Humans are still
needed in cars. There is still room for us to be driving because the computers and the smartphones just aren't doing it yet.
LU STOUT: I will (INAUDIBLE) being here. You say it is a concept, but as demos go, that demo did not work out well. Now, you have (INAUDIBLE) from
Huawei. An interesting laptop. It is interesting because of the positioning of the camera.
BURKE: Exactly. So for a long time, I made fun of my father, Mark Burke, because he puts tape over his camera. But then I thought Mark Zuckerberg
does the same thing. He puts a tape across this. So, can you try and spot the camera here? There is a webcam somewhere inside of here.
So for those people who are security conscious and want to spend $1,850 on a laptop, right between the F6 and the F7 button is this camera which you
can push down to close.
So if you are walking around your household, you don't want people to see what you're doing, you're afraid of hackers, you push it away. If you want
to talk to mom back in Hong Kong, then you just push out a little button. This is the Huawei Matebook Pro X.
LU STOUT: (INAUDIBLE) interesting because also look at the (INAUDIBLE) bigger screen because (INAUDIBLE) move the camera. That is very clever.
LU STOUT: But, I am sorry. When you are doing Face Time with your mom, she is going to get the (INAUDIBLE) shot, right? It means --
LU STOUT: -- the angle is right there.
BURKE: We try not to get that angle in television.
LU STOUT: And finally, something else making big in the halls of the conference. Jeff Zucker was speaking here, the head of CNN. What did he
BURKE: That's right. That's our boss. A lot of people forget that this is a business to business conference as well. We talked about the cool
consumer facing stuff (ph), but much more the consumer electronic show in Las Vegas.
You have businesses talking other businesses here especially telecom. So a lot of people are talking today about the Comcast bid to try and take over
Sky, the cable carrier in the UK. So all of these industries now, whether it is cable or entertainment companies, digital news were all moving in the
same space with tech companies.
It is interesting what Jeff Zucker, our boss, had to say at the conference here, it has been getting a lot of attention, in the same vein that we are
hearing from a lot of other CEOs. We heard from Rupert Murdoch just a few weeks ago saying that Facebook (INAUDIBLE) folks like us because we post
And now, Mr. Zucker, said the following when he was on stage here at the Mobile World Congress, saying quote, everyone is looking at whether these
combinations of AT&T and Time Warner, our parent company, or Fox and Disney pass government approval and muster. The fact is nobody for some reason is
looking at these monopolies that are Google and Facebook.
So our boss, Jeff Zucker, (INAUDIBLE) the AT&T, Time Warner deal that is facing a lot of scrutiny from regulators. Time Warner is our parent
company. But I think what's important to know here is what he is saying is that it is very difficult for may companies like our own to compete with
Facebook and Google and they had 60 percent of the digital ad markets.
It is not very often that just two companies had 60 percent of one space and as a result, a lot of people are finding it very difficult to see video
ads, whether it is (INAUDIBLE) even our own digital unit facing (INAUDIBLE) because of this landscape where it is hard to compete with companies like
Facebook and Google. So, a lot of consolidation happening around media is (INAUDIBLE) take on the tech companies even if you're a media company.
LU STOUT: Absolutely. As you point out, as Jeff Zucker points out, it is an ever changing media landscape here and people are calling for
(INAUDIBLE) or in some cases (INAUDIBLE) as you heard from (INAUDIBLE).
BURKE: It would be very hard to find another CEO in Jeff's position that will disagree with him in the mainstream media company.
LU STOUT: Good point. Samuel Burke, thank you so much, take care.
Now, Dubai police, they have closed the case in this disturbing case, the death of this Bollywood icon. They have ruled out foul play and will
release the body of Sridevi to her family. They say that the 54-year-old actress drowned after passing out in her hotel bathtub. She was attending a
family wedding in the UAE. Her fans gathered outside her home in Mumbai to pay tribute to her life and a career that spanned five decades.
That is it for the special edition of "News Stream" coming to you live from Barcelona, home of Mobile World Congress. I am Kristie Lu Stout, don't go
anywhere, we got "World Sport," next.
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